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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:16 am

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Female spotted hyenas have a six inch clitoris that they give birth through.

Ow, ow, ow...
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:57 am

Harley Quinn hyenaholic wrote:
Reepicheep-chan wrote:
Sheba wrote:
On the subject of female hyenas--and god knows you'd be the one to know this--isn't it true that they have a proto-penis of their own? I seem to recall reading that 19th-century biologists believed that hyenas could change gender at will, because suddenly some of the ones that seemed to be female sprouted what looked a damned lot like a penis.


Oh hyenas are totally nature's dickgirls.


Yup, that's true. Female spotted hyenas have a six inch clitoris that they give birth through, and it's usually a single alpha female running the pack. It's nature's OTHER way of saying, "Men are inferior." You know, apart from it being lionesses who do all the work.

If there's such a thing as reincarnation, I totally want to come back as a female hyena.


And now you know why the nineteenth century's most insulting epithet for feminists was "hyenas in petticoats".
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:33 am

Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Even if Buffy does find true love and happiness with Angel/Spike/Willow/Faith/Xander/whoever, she's not going to live happily ever after. She's the Slayer. Her life will always revolve around killing demons and saving the world.

Also, "Buffy" is not short for "Elizabeth".

Heroes
While Sylar may have feelings for Claire, she will never reciprocate them. Claire hates Sylar with a fiery passion, bordering on irrational.
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:44 am

Meshakhad wrote:

Heroes
While Sylar may have feelings for Claire, she will never reciprocate them. Claire hates Sylar with a fiery passion, bordering on irrational.


...He cut off the top of her head. He murdered a girl brutally in front of her. He tormented her father. He killed bio-dad. He went after people she cared about with the intent to cut off the top of their heads slowly and pick around in their brains. He sexually molested her a few times, which is just squicky.

It ain't all that irrational.
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:37 am

Lapin wrote:
Meshakhad wrote:

Heroes
While Sylar may have feelings for Claire, she will never reciprocate them. Claire hates Sylar with a fiery passion, bordering on irrational.


...He cut off the top of her head. He murdered a girl brutally in front of her. He tormented her father. He killed bio-dad. He went after people she cared about with the intent to cut off the top of their heads slowly and pick around in their brains. He sexually molested her a few times, which is just squicky.

It ain't all that irrational.

That's an understatement. What show have you been watching, Meshakhad?
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:51 am

Like to put in a my few cents here with some of my fandoms:

W.I.T.C.H.

- FIVE ELEMENTS, people. Water, fire, earth, air, energy. Nothing more, nothing less. Stop trying to shove a sixth Guardian into the mix with some super, special element. They're not like the Power Rangers.
- If you're using the animated continuity, there is more than one Heart. Stop giving everyone the Heart of Kandrakar/Candracar.
- In that same vein, not everyone's going to done purple and green tights with fairy wings. That's only the Heart of Kandrakar. Look at Matt, Huggles and Napoleon - Heart of Earth turned them into monster-like beings. Granted, Matt and Huggles had reason...

Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha (and this is only because I saw it in an RP...)

- Yes, Nanoha has enough magical firepower that, if she showed up in a Super Robot Wars game, she'd fit in quite well with all those giant robots. No, she doesn't like to blow up stuff all the time.
- Nanoha quite likes her position as Captain and Instructor. She DOESN'T want to be the head of ANYTHING. That would be Hayate, if anyone, people!

I know, I probably listed two pretty obscure fandoms here, but, I wanted to get them off my chest.
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:40 pm

Chaltab wrote:
Lapin wrote:
Meshakhad wrote:

Heroes
While Sylar may have feelings for Claire, she will never reciprocate them. Claire hates Sylar with a fiery passion, bordering on irrational.


...He cut off the top of her head. He murdered a girl brutally in front of her. He tormented her father. He killed bio-dad. He went after people she cared about with the intent to cut off the top of their heads slowly and pick around in their brains. He sexually molested her a few times, which is just squicky.

It ain't all that irrational.

That's an understatement. What show have you been watching, Meshakhad?


I said "bordering on irrational". My particular thought is that although Sylar is capable of redemption, Claire will never consider him to be anything other than a monster.
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:17 pm

Mmm... gonna hafta say that's still perfectly rational. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:38 pm

Legend of Zelda
-Write what you want, but seriously, unless you're writing about the cartoon series, Link's main goal was never to boink Zelda. If you simply must have them get together, then do it in a way that doesn't turn Link into a brainless dolt or Zelda into a damsel or bimbo.
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:20 pm

Chaltab wrote:
Legend of Zelda
-Write what you want, but seriously, unless you're writing about the cartoon series, Link's main goal was never to boink Zelda. If you simply must have them get together, then do it in a way that doesn't turn Link into a brainless dolt or Zelda into a damsel or bimbo.


I would like to add the 'Depends on the bloody game' note in that it depends on which world your writing about as well.

TP:- Yeah, Link/Ilia is pretty strongly hinted at through out the whole game (Actually Link/Minda is hinted aboyut 12 tiems harder but the lady herself puts a kaibosh on that) where as the longest interaction Link and Zelda have is when Zelda isn't quite herself and them lots of fighting, so maybe not.

OoT/MM(Or the Time Travel Games):- Yeah, no, Link is quite literally a 10 year old in a 18 year old body, some of the expanded material might have the older Zelda slightly attracted to him but that's it. Besides, at the end of Oot Navi flies off and Link books it after her, hence the begining of MM, no bonking for you!

WW/PH(The Ganon Came back and fuck up our shit games):- Yeah, There is something going on ther, but once again, so very very young unless you want to age them (and if you do dear god make it beliveable!) all I can say is better not.
ST:-Same World (Kinda) Different Link, Different Zelda, Same problem, either do a believable age up or leave be.

Oracle of Seasons/ Oracle of Age:- SPOILERS! Yeah, Zelda is dead for part of the bloody game if you play the games sequentially and then when you get her back Link promptly sets off on a very familiar boat, which brings me to.

Links Awakening:- Zelda is not in this game, at all, sorry.

Link to the Past:- Possible, just set it after everything is settled, remember there is a king in this one, and link has a parent, THEY WILL HAVE THOUGHTS ON THE SUBJECT OF THERE YOUNG CHARGES BONKING!

Legend Of Zelda1 & 2:- Oh who knows what is going on in these two, go nuts, just make sure that once again (especially in the case of 2) everything is settled.

Rant over. God I need a drink.
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:28 pm

X-Men

- I’m generalising these so they can apply to Movieverse, Comicverse and 90’s &Evolution Cartoonverse.

- If you are going to introduce a character who is going to be angsty over his/her powers... Give them powers that are worth getting angsty about. If you are beautiful, all-powerful and all-knowing, I can't take you seriously when you moan about how 'being a mutant has ruined your life'. Especially not with Nightcrawler, Rogue, Beast, Cyclops and Chamber stood in the corner, arms folded scowling at you.

- Charles Xavier will never have sex with any of his students.

- If Magneto says: "I love you", He means: "You are temporarily useful to me." Remember this.

- Cyclops is a dick. But he is a dick for a reason, quit making him a dick for no reason.

- Charles Xavier will NEVER HAVE SEX WITH HIS STUDENTS!!

- You cannot tame Wolverine. He doesn’t want to be. He will not settle down because he is perfectly aware that he will outlive you, he’s gone through that before. (Hooking up with any X-Man is almost guarenteed death, anyhow!)

- Kitty Pride is not a bitch, knock that shit off.

- HE BLOODY WELL WON’T, OK?

- Mystique is fucking awesome at just about everything she does. If you are going to have her make a mistake, misjudge an opponent or fail at something, provide a damn good reason.

- Despite evidence to the contrary, the Sentinels are supposed to be scary and effective.

- And finally: R – O – G – U – E
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:55 pm

Sorry to keep harping on this, but it really is my thing.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO WRITE A HOLOCAUST/NAZI GERMANY STORY, ORIGINAL OR FANFICTION, KNOW THAT...

1. You need to do your damn research. If you're writing from a prisoner's perspective, have an idea what stalag, Gestapo prison, or concentration camp life was like. If you're writing from a soldier's or guard's perspective, know details about how the Nazi heirarchy functioned. If your character makes it to the liberation, know which allied army liberated which camp on what date. If you're going to afflict a character with a specific disease, know the symptoms. Know your timelines. For a historical fic, research is half the battle.

2. Concentration camp prisoners were human beings, and most of them held on to their personalities to the very end. Make them three-dimensional characters.

3. Making famous atrocity-perpetrators like Amon Goeth, Josef Mengele, and Ilse Koch into misunderstood woobies or, worse, love objects to fap to, is a bad idea. These people were vicious, heartless psychopaths.

4. That said, not all Germans were 100% bad during this time (Oskar Schindler, duh). Likewise, all Jews were not 100% good (if you don't know what the word "kapo" means, you have no business writing a Holocaust fic).

5. Auschwitz was not the only death camp. It was the biggest, but there were others. It's okay to branch out a little and set a fic in, say, Sobibor.

6. It's okay to have sex in the fic; concentration camps and ghettoes were actually promiscuous places that saw their share of both consensual and nonconsensual sex. However, to write a lurid lemon about them is to disrespect the dead.

7. If you write an original Holocaust story, it is bad form to slap the Schindler's List label on it so that you can call it fanfiction.

8. If you put your gorgeous Mary Sue/Gary Stu character in a concentration camp, they will not remain gorgeous for long; nobody looks good when bald, emaciated, dirty, exhausted, sick, bloody, and bruised. If you're thinking of writing a fic in which a CC prisoner maintains their ability to stun with their beauty for months on end, don't.

9. If you're writing in English, the reader will understand that dialogue is translated from the German/French/Yiddish/whatever. Eet iz not naecesserry for ze charactahrs to talk lihk ziz.

10. The Holocaust is not simple fodder for Mary Sue's twagic past. The Magneto Rule: If you're going to write about a Holocaust survivor, make sure you go in with an idea of how the character's suffering changed them mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, and economically.


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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:37 pm

TMNT

1: They're turtles. I know there's a few fics where they get turned into humans that are good, but the primary point of it being TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES is that they are TURTLES.

2: There are about half a dozen different continuities. Some of them actually interlock or intertwine. The 1987 one is the most different from any of the others.

3: The turtles fight. They would never, ever, however, no matter what, intentionally hurt one of their brothers. Raphael gets pretty rough sometimes but none of them are rapists or murderers.

4: Did I say they're turtles?

5: April doesn't need to fuck any of the turtles. She's got Casey Jones for that.

6: The Shredder is consistently capable of kicking the turtles' asses, sometimes all four at once. Even when he's an idiot or a robot, he's still better than them. YOUR OC CANNOT DEFEAT THE SHREDDER. Only Splinter can defeat the Shredder.

7: TURTLES, dammit!

8: Nobody's stopping your OC from winning the occasional sparring match against a turtle. But these guys have been training in Ninjitsu for the last 18 years (or close). With the best teacher in the world. You'd better have been doing the same. One turtle can defeat about ten Foot Ninja at once, and those guys aren't exactly pushovers either.

9: There's LOTS of weapons to choose from, not just swords.

10: They would never hurt their brothers. I said that already. And they would never leave them behind. You know damn well what I mean by 'hurt'. Siblings fight. That's normal.
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:29 pm

littledorrit wrote:
If you're writing in English, the reader will understand that dialogue is translated from the German/French/Yiddish/whatever. Eet iz not naecesserry for ze charactahrs to talk lihk ziz.

Mind if I sig this?
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:20 pm

KJM wrote:
littledorrit wrote:
If you're writing in English, the reader will understand that dialogue is translated from the German/French/Yiddish/whatever. Eet iz not naecesserry for ze charactahrs to talk lihk ziz.

Mind if I sig this?


I would be honored.
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:06 am

Akira

* The movie only did the first two books. There are six books, and EVER so much head-exploding. You're missing a lot.

* The manga was not about sex and psychokinetic powers. It was about politics and social interaction and took the original slant that the military does not have to be the bad guy. Colonel Shikishima APPEARED to be an antagonist at first, but he was in fact a good and honourable man who wanted to save Neo-Tokyo from a second Akira.

* Kai, aka Kaisuke, is homosexual. He shows not the slightest interest in any girls, and seems to be attracted to Kaneda. But like hell does that make him a wuss. Being a shortarse does not mean he does not kick ass - sometimes right through windows.

* The Capsules gang are not nice kids. They are delinquents who got sent to the Eighth District Youth Vocational Training School because of their repeated criminal behaviour. They use guns. They smoke and drink and take drugs. They go on late-night biker rides and kick the shit out of rival gangs.

* When it comes to girls, Kaneda is kind of a dickwad. He won't treat your Mary Sue with the adoring love and devotion she deserves. He doesn't even TRY to hide the fact that he's in it for sex.
** While attracted to Kaneda, Kei knows this.

* There's a shitload of characters in the Manga who never showed up in the movie.

* Live action Akira? I shudder at what Hollywood will do to it.
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:39 am

WD40 wrote:
X-Men

- Charles Xavier will never have sex with any of his students.


Actually in mainstream it's been hinted that he has a raging crushing on Jean Grey and in Ultimates is stated to have slept with Mystique when she was a teenager/student. UNlikely but plausible


WD40 wrote:
- You cannot tame Wolverine. He doesn’t want to be. He will not settle down because he is perfectly aware that he will outlive you, he’s gone through that before. (Hooking up with any X-Man is almost guarenteed death, anyhow!)


He's gotten married before, I think, I can't remember if he and Mariko actually got married or if she died before, and has told Scott that he wants that wife, kids and a dog life that he sees Scott has having, so settling down is pretty in character, outliving doesn't stop him from fall in love and wanting to spend a long time with a person
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:58 pm

Harley Quinn hyenaholic wrote:
Akira

* The movie only did the first two books. There are six books, and EVER so much head-exploding. You're missing a lot.

* The manga was not about sex and psychokinetic powers. It was about politics and social interaction and took the original slant that the military does not have to be the bad guy. Colonel Shikishima APPEARED to be an antagonist at first, but he was in fact a good and honourable man who wanted to save Neo-Tokyo from a second Akira.

* Kai, aka Kaisuke, is homosexual. He shows not the slightest interest in any girls, and seems to be attracted to Kaneda. But like hell does that make him a wuss. Being a shortarse does not mean he does not kick ass - sometimes right through windows.

* The Capsules gang are not nice kids. They are delinquents who got sent to the Eighth District Youth Vocational Training School because of their repeated criminal behaviour. They use guns. They smoke and drink and take drugs. They go on late-night biker rides and kick the shit out of rival gangs.

* When it comes to girls, Kaneda is kind of a dickwad. He won't treat your Mary Sue with the adoring love and devotion she deserves. He doesn't even TRY to hide the fact that he's in it for sex.
** While attracted to Kaneda, Kei knows this.

* There's a shitload of characters in the Manga who never showed up in the movie.

* Live action Akira? I shudder at what Hollywood will do to it.


If you're talking elements, such as the "Caretaker" robots, the Akira Assassination Corps, the U.S Military, The U.S Orbital Bombardment Platform "Floyd", Tetuso's "flunky", the Greater Neo-Tokyo Empire etc, I Agree...
As for the "Live Action" Akira, did'nt they move the proposed setting to New New York, a/k/a "Neo-Manhattan", & have Leonardo De Caprio as the "Colonel"...?


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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:25 pm

Quote:
As for the "Live Action" Akira, did'nt they
move the proposed setting to New New York & have Leonardo De Caprio
as the "Colonel"...?


Shit, you WHAT?! OH MY FUCKING GOD, please say you're kidding me. Di Caprio? He's not even black! Also, I thought they were going to set it in New Chicago.

Because if it's not set in America with Americans as the good guys, Americans won't be interested in it.

It's like Hollywood is a fanfic writer doing an American AU fic, and frantically raping the universe as hard as it can, the difference being, THEY'RE gonna get PAID for it.

If it's not gonna be set in Japan with Japanese people, WHY EVEN CALL IT AKIRA?! Well that's fucking obvious - they'll get more money out of it this way. Bastards.
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:28 pm

Harley Quinn hyenaholic wrote:
Because if it's not set in America with Americans as the good guys, Americans won't be interested in it.


We just can't fucking win, can we? If we respect the source material, we're a bunch of weaboos. If not, we're corporate sellouts.
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:08 pm

What's a weaboo? Whatever it is, I'd still prefer it to the canon rape I suspect will be coming from any Live Action Akira.

They ought to change the title. "Akira" will have manga fans going to see it, and they'll know damn well what it's supposed to be. This could turn out to be one of the worst cartoon-to-LA movies since TMNT 3.
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:10 pm

Harley Quinn hyenaholic wrote:
What's a weaboo?


http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Weaboo
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:00 pm

You know Encyclopaedia Dramatica isn't overly helpful in these matters.

But I think I'd prefer them to be weaboos than what they seem to intend to do to the source material. It's going to be terrible.
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:22 pm

Harley Quinn hyenaholic wrote:
You know Encyclopaedia Dramatica isn't overly helpful in these matters.

But I think I'd prefer them to be weaboos than what they seem to intend to do to the source material. It's going to be terrible.


And that's why the live action Robotech Movie, reportedly starring Tobey McGuire as Rick Hunter, will never, ever be made...
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PostSubject: Re: If you must desecrate my fandom   Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:31 pm

Arise, topic, arise!

Miss Prince wrote:
Wildstyle wrote:
Kim Possible

I just got back into reading fic in this fandom. What can I say, I missed the Kigo.

Wildstyle wrote:
-On the other hand, if you DO want to hook Drakken and Shego up, having Shego being raped and Drakken picking up the pieces is NOT the way to go. Why? Because I doubt raping a well-versed martial artist who can SHOOT PLASMA BEAMS FROM HER HANDS is an easy feat.

People... people do that? Upset


Pick a fandom with a powerful female. Google it with the word "rape" attached. Hilarity will ensue. Hell, this is practically it's own doujinshi genre.

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WD40 wrote:
- You cannot tame Wolverine. He doesn’t want to be. He will not settle down because he is perfectly aware that he will outlive you, he’s gone through that before. (Hooking up with any X-Man is almost guarenteed death, anyhow!)


He's gotten married before, I think, I can't remember if he and Mariko actually got married or if she died before, and has told Scott that he wants that wife, kids and a dog life that he sees Scott has having, so settling down is pretty in character, outliving doesn't stop him from fall in love and wanting to spend a long time with a person


They were engaged. She wanted to divest her family of their connection to the Yazuka and The Hand before they got married. But yeah, Logan (I flatly refuse to even think of him as "James") would love nothing better than settling down, but getting smacked repeatedly with The Cartwright Curse has taught him not to pursue it.

Somath Cegem wrote:
Chaltab wrote:
Legend of Zelda
-Write what you want, but seriously, unless you're writing about the cartoon series, Link's main goal was never to boink Zelda. If you simply must have them get together, then do it in a way that doesn't turn Link into a brainless dolt or Zelda into a damsel or bimbo.


I would like to add the 'Depends on the bloody game' note in that it depends on which world your writing about as well.

[list snipped]


Add to that:

Minish Cap: Though they're in Toy Ship territory, Zelda is pretty giggly and flirty with him. They're clearly playmates and more later on didn't seem out of the question.

And to make my own contribution:

Sookie Stackhouse/True Blood

  • Remember that although the books and the series share a setting and general plot, some of the situations and characterizations are drastically different. Keep them straight when writing about one or the other. Ex: Book!Jason is a good natured redneck Kavorka Man with horrible taste in bedmates. HBO!Jason is a jerk ass who will stick his dick in anything that will hold still long enough and say "Oh yes!" at the appropriate times.
  • Although Eric is utterly ruthless in pursuing his interests, he takes pride in being scrupulously respectful of his lovers - even fangbangers. He's not turning anyone into his sex slave. Nor is he going to be raping Sookie - to him this would be defeating the purpose.
  • Bubba does not exist in True Blood. If you want to include him, you'd better have a damn good reason why he hasn't shown up yet.
  • Sookie is a bit of a prude*. Even with her canon lovers this is true. If she's unattached in your story, she's not going to be jumping happily into bed with Bill/Eric/Sam/Alcide/Quinn/Your Stu. Not without some major angsting on her part. Remember that.


* HBO!Sookie, that is. Book!Sookie is a MAJOR prude.
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