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Jenny Islander Sporkbender

Join date: 2009-07-17
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:52 pm | |
| | unskilled78 wrote: | I'd just like to throw this out for Alaska. It can get quite warm in the summer, in the southern parts. (60 F Low, 90 F high) During Summer, the days can be quite long (north of the Artic Circle, they are in the neighborhood of 6 months long during the summer) Juneau (the capital) is a very small town. (IIRC, about half the size of Central Park.) Not everyone is an Eskimo. In fact, the largest city is the size of a good suburb at most. Aside from areas flattened out by glaciers, Alaska is largely mountains.
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There are places in Alaska where you are lucky to get enough snow to move a dogsled. Even before global warming. You can grow apples and cherries outdoors in parts of Alaska. Other parts are actually rainforest--temperate rainforest, but rainforest all the same.
There are many different Native cultural groups in Alaska, each with a separate language and a very long history. None of them is Navajo. (Northern Exposure, I'm lookin' at you.) Also, if you ask a Native for some ancient Indian wisdom, you will be lucky to get away with just being laughed at, and if you try to impress a Native with your mighty 21st-century technology, you will find yourself in a pissing contest you may not win. Note: There are no reservations in Alaska. There are Native corporations that own large tracts of land, but they maintain facilities for their own people all over the state and live wherever the hell they want.
Speaking of which: Alaska is thoroughly plugged into the global culture. Everybody has cable, most people have Internet, lots of people have cell phones, and if you say, "All your base--" in any bar, somebody is almost certain to pipe up, "--are belong to us!"
Alaska is about the size of all of Scandinavia and most of it is completely and utterly roadless. You cannot get there from here unless you fly or take a boat. There are sizeable towns that sit in the midst of a completely undeveloped wilderness--usually on a river or on the coast. If you plan to go to (say) Nome, plan on an overnight trip, or longer.
Alaska has a very high percentage of immigrants from all around the Pacific Rim. For instance, my town (pop. ~6,500) has two Filipino convenience stores, one Hispanic, and one Thai, plus one Filipino church, one Spanish-speaking, and one Korean. The downtown supermarket stocks fresh banana blossoms and frozen milkfish. So, no, the two main groups are not "Indian" and pasty white kthx. |
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Join date: 2009-06-03 Age: 23 Location: You can't piss on hospitality.
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:06 pm | |
| | Jenny Islander wrote: | There are many different Native cultural groups in Alaska, each with a separate language and a very long history. None of them is Navajo. (Northern Exposure, I'm lookin' at you.)
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I think the reason people would think Navajos live in Alaska is because there are some Inuit tribes there who are supposedly related to the Navajo and speak the same kind of language- Athabaskan, if I recall correctly. |
|  | | Jenny Islander Sporkbender

Join date: 2009-07-17
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:11 pm | |
| | Nihilist wrote: | | Jenny Islander wrote: | There are many different Native cultural groups in Alaska, each with a separate language and a very long history. None of them is Navajo. (Northern Exposure, I'm lookin' at you.)
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I think the reason people would think Navajos live in Alaska is because there are some Inuit tribes there who are supposedly related to the Navajo and speak the same kind of language- Athabaskan, if I recall correctly. |
About as closely related as Italian and French IIRC--language families can be big things. And Northern Exposure hired Dineh to play Alaska Natives because the actual Natives who showed up to audition "looked too Asian." Gee, it's not as though people used to sail back and forth between Alaska and Siberia to get married and visit relatives or anything. :redangry: But, yes, Athabaskan groups also live up here. |
|  | | Sycorax Drive-by Camwhore

Join date: 2010-03-28
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:12 pm | |
| I am German. Must I say more?
Sycorax "I assure you: We don't eat Sauerkraut all the time and not many of us wear leather hosen." |
|  | | Lady Anne NO NOT THE BEEEEES


Join date: 2009-06-12 Age: 35 Location: The land of the fruits and nuts
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:36 pm | |
| I once got an e-mail from a fanfic writer who wanted to know what the weather was like in the United States. When I asked what time of year and what part, they responded that they thought it was always the same in the United States. I once read a romance novel by a British novelist who portrayed all Americans as speaking like Ross Perot. I once read a badfic where the author described the 14-hour flight between Phoenix and Los Angeles. That's right. 14 hours. It doesn't take that long to drive between Phoenix and Los Angeles. Hell, it doesn't take that long to fly between Los Angeles and London (yes, I've done it). |
|  | | kleine_kat VileCorp's Muscly Woman-slave


Join date: 2009-06-11 Age: 32 Location: Lower Countries
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:10 pm | |
| Holland and The Netherlands are one and the same. Their inhabitants are known as the Dutch, and they speak, taadaaaaa...Dutch
Kopenhagen is not the capital city of Holland. Neither is Holland the capital city of Norway.
The capital of the Netherlands is Amsterdam.
When Dutch people talk, they do not sound like Germans, the French, South Africans or Norwegians. They have a very distinct accent, which is very easily reproduced.
Not all Dutch people smoke weed like the Blue Caterpillar.
The Dutch didn't have slaves. They are, however, responsible for getting the slaves from Africa to their new involuntary homes. |
|  | | ZoZo NO NOT THE BEEEEES


Join date: 2009-06-10 Age: 27 Location: In WD40's head
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:26 pm | |
| Some quick notes on how the English drink tea, since it seems to be impossible to get a good cup of tea in fanfic: -Tea is usually drunk with milk. Some people have sugar. It is customary to ask if people take sugar before making their tea. -If tea is not drunk with milk, it will usually contain a slice of lemon. People who take their tea this way are usually pretentious. -Never have lemon and milk. It's an either/or thing. -Most people do not use a teapot--this is usually restricted to old people, or "homey" sorts. Usually tea is served in a mug. -If a teapot is used, the rule is one teabag per person, and one "for the pot". -When making tea in a mug, the water goes in first. Putting the milk in first results in horribly weak tea. -Furthermore "milk-in-firsts" are generally subjected to ridicule. They are people who think they are more posh than they are. |
|  | | Penguin NO NOT THE BEEEEES


Join date: 2009-07-19 Location: Wild Gray Yonder
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:57 pm | |
| | kleine_kat wrote: | | The Dutch didn't have slaves. They are, however, responsible for getting the slaves from Africa to their new involuntary homes. |
"I don't get high off my own supply, I just deal fool." |
|  | | Max III Sporkbender


Join date: 2010-03-05 Age: 139 Location: A very comfortable armchair
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:01 pm | |
| 'nother Californian here who agrees with all Lady Anne's points.
Would like to add that there is a difference between Northern CA and Southern CA, it gets colder in the North, there is frost during winter, and for some horrible reason, it hails. Rarely, yes, and very small stones, yes, but I've seen hail here more than once. And smeyer, you can get excellent Mexican food in the North any time.
...yes, I read twilight when I was small and the line about "probably nearest good Mexican food is in Southern CA lololol" just bothered me okay |
|  | | Harley Quinn hyenaholic NO NOT THE BEEEEES


Join date: 2009-06-12 Age: 27
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:51 pm | |
| Not everybody in the UK is an middle-class snob from London.
The UK is not America's little pet. Well, the government may be, but the citizens are NOT. If you think you can win an argument by telling anybody from the UK that America saved Britain in WW2, they'll probably punch you in the face just for all that ignorance you're displaying.
And it won't be 'fisticuffs'. Nobody in the UK believes in fisticuffs. |
|  | | Penguin NO NOT THE BEEEEES


Join date: 2009-07-19 Location: Wild Gray Yonder
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:54 pm | |
| | Harley Quinn hyenaholic wrote: | Not everybody in the UK is an middle-class snob from London.
The UK is not America's little pet. Well, the government may be, but the citizens are NOT. If you think you can win an argument by telling anybody from the UK that America saved Britain in WW2, they'll probably punch you in the face just for all that ignorance you're displaying.
And it won't be 'fisticuffs'. Nobody in the UK believes in fisticuffs. |
This post brought to you buy the Collection of Conversations with Americans Harley Has Had Inside Her Head. |
|  | | Reepicheep-chan Important Person


Join date: 2009-06-12 Age: 26 Location: IN A SEXY NEW CONDO
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:39 pm | |
| | Penguin wrote: | | This post brought to you buy the Collection of Conversations with Americans Harley Has Had Inside Her Head. |
Inorite? I mean, American fanbrats may be dumb, but has anyone actually read a fic (or a book, a webcomic, watched a movie, a play, etc etc) where some American guy said that bit about WW2 to an angry Brit and the Brit's response was 'OMG ILU!!'? I am begining to think that if you want to bitch about incorrect stereotypes about your country being potrayed by fanbrats you should back your complaint up with evidence someone srsly believes said incorrect stereotype, you know? |
|  | | Grimley Fieendish Sporkbender


Join date: 2009-09-07 Age: 48 Location: Currently, running a Ski Resort on Hoth
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:40 am | |
| | KJM wrote: | | Lady Anne wrote: | Snow in Santa Monica The ocean in Palm Springs LA and San Francisco being an hour apart by car Everyone in California saying Aloha People with an income of ten grand a year living on the beach (and they're not homeless or live-in servants) California located in Hawaii California located in Florida California located in Utah California located in Pakistan California located in Indonesia Deserts? What deserts? Mountains? What mountains? What do you mean, it's colder in San Francisco than Los Angeles? It never rains in California Everyone lives in LA Everyone lives in San Francisco Everyone is liberal Everyone is conservative Everyone is an actor Everyone is blonde Everyone goes to Disneyland all the time It's always eighty degrees Everyone lives on the beach Everyone is rich |
Now I want to write a crackfic in which, somehow, these are all true. |
I take it's all the fault of Alien Space Bats (tm), for the sudden translocation of the U.S part of California (No one apperently mentions Baja California, however, which is part of Mexico) to Hawaii, Florida, Utah, Pakistan or Indonesia respectively... As for the 1 hour drive between San Francisco & Los Angelies, it might be possible if done in a Bugatti Veryon, Ferrari 599, Lamborgini Gallardo, or Corvette ZR-1 at 4am, but otherwise, forget it...
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|  | | Raine Challenge Winner!


Join date: 2009-06-11 Age: 25 Location: Australia
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:04 pm | |
| I'm kinda glad writers don't ask me about Australia, because it's my duty as an Aussie to tell as many tall tales as possible.
So basically, anything you hear on the internet about Australia is false. And at the same time, very, very true. |
|  | | SirDixonDongs Armbiter of Good Fanfiction


Join date: 2009-06-11 Location: how does a penis
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:00 pm | |
| more like arse-tralia amirite
dear writers there are communist left wing american rednecks plz to be including us |
|  | | SlyChild Sporkbender

Join date: 2010-01-13 Age: 20 Location: Ass glued to computer chair. Haven't moved in days.
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:29 pm | |
| | ZoZo wrote: | Some quick notes on how the English drink tea, since it seems to be impossible to get a good cup of tea in fanfic: -Tea is usually drunk with milk. Some people have sugar. It is customary to ask if people take sugar before making their tea. -If tea is not drunk with milk, it will usually contain a slice of lemon. People who take their tea this way are usually pretentious. -Never have lemon and milk. It's an either/or thing. -Most people do not use a teapot--this is usually restricted to old people, or "homey" sorts. Usually tea is served in a mug. -If a teapot is used, the rule is one teabag per person, and one "for the pot". -When making tea in a mug, the water goes in first. Putting the milk in first results in horribly weak tea. -Furthermore "milk-in-firsts" are generally subjected to ridicule. They are people who think they are more posh than they are. |
On the subject of delicious hot beverages: Dear Britain, That Nescafe stuff is not coffee. That is blasphemy. Sincerely, The United States of America |
|  | | ZoZo NO NOT THE BEEEEES


Join date: 2009-06-10 Age: 27 Location: In WD40's head
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:19 pm | |
| | SlyChild wrote: | On the subject of delicious hot beverages: Dear Britain, That Nescafe stuff is not coffee. That is blasphemy. Sincerely, The United States of America | Yeah we do know that. We also know that those big cups of foamy milk that once saw a coffee bean they sell in Starbucks aren't coffee either. We just can't be arsed to brew it properly: the day they make something like a teabag for coffee is the day we might start drinking it more. |
|  | | myeerah Contributor


Join date: 2009-06-11 Age: 34
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:25 pm | |
| | ZoZo wrote: | | SlyChild wrote: | On the subject of delicious hot beverages: Dear Britain, That Nescafe stuff is not coffee. That is blasphemy. Sincerely, The United States of America | Yeah we do know that. We also know that those big cups of foamy milk that once saw a coffee bean they sell in Starbucks aren't coffee either. We just can't be arsed to brew it properly: the day they make something like a teabag for coffee is the day we might start drinking it more. |
Er...they do. |
|  | | ZoZo NO NOT THE BEEEEES


Join date: 2009-06-10 Age: 27 Location: In WD40's head
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:34 am | |
| | myeerah wrote: | | ZoZo wrote: | | SlyChild wrote: | On the subject of delicious hot beverages: Dear Britain, That Nescafe stuff is not coffee. That is blasphemy. Sincerely, The United States of America | Yeah we do know that. We also know that those big cups of foamy milk that once saw a coffee bean they sell in Starbucks aren't coffee either. We just can't be arsed to brew it properly: the day they make something like a teabag for coffee is the day we might start drinking it more. |
Er...they do. | Jesuspissingfuck why do they dont sell those over here? Are they really as easy as teabags? No fucking around with equipment, just plop in water, brew... coffee? If so, WHY DO THEY NOT SELL THOSE HERE? |
|  | | SirDixonDongs Armbiter of Good Fanfiction


Join date: 2009-06-11 Location: how does a penis
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:21 pm | |
| i'm p. sure you can order them and have them shipped??? |
|  | | Wildstyle Drive-by Camwhore


Join date: 2010-01-29 Location: The Otherworld Shopping Mall
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:37 pm | |
| Ooh! Ooh! Some atrocities I've read in fanfics about the land I'm supposed to be from:
-Brazil's population is comprised only of black people. And they ALL act like slaves. -All women walk around naked, are black or, possibly, if the author has somehow heard the term before, mulatas and somehow manage to dance samba while they walk. -All we ever do is drink beer and dance samba. -We celebrate the Carnaval 24/7 (this isn't even true in Bahia) -Brazil's only states are Río de Janeiro, São Paulo and Bahía. -There is a Brazilian west coast. -Baia. -Every Brazilian knows how to play soccer. In fact, Brazil doesn't have doctors, engineers, teachers, nothing. ONLY soccer players. -Brazilians live in tree-houses and go to school on vines. I KID YOU NOT. I READ THIS.
As a final note, I'd like to add WE DO NOT HAVE A FUCKING WEST COAST, GOD DAMN IT!!
That is all. |
|  | | myeerah Contributor


Join date: 2009-06-11 Age: 34
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:37 pm | |
| | Wildstyle wrote: | -All we ever do is drink beer and dance samba.
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Wouldn't it be awesome if it were true, though? |
|  | | rae Contributor


Join date: 2009-06-10 Location: computer chair
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:20 pm | |
| | myeerah wrote: | | Wildstyle wrote: | -All we ever do is drink beer and dance samba.
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Wouldn't it be awesome if it were true, though? |
I would be moving there in a heartbeat.  |
|  | | Grimley Fieendish Sporkbender


Join date: 2009-09-07 Age: 48 Location: Currently, running a Ski Resort on Hoth
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:20 pm | |
| | Wildstyle wrote: | Ooh! Ooh! Some atrocities I've read in fanfics about the land I'm supposed to be from:
-Brazil's population is comprised only of black people. And they ALL act like slaves. -All women walk around naked, are black or, possibly, if the author has somehow heard the term before, mulatas and somehow manage to dance samba while they walk. -All we ever do is drink beer and dance samba. -We celebrate the Carnaval 24/7 (this isn't even true in Bahia) -Brazil's only states are Río de Janeiro, São Paulo and Bahía. -There is a Brazilian west coast. -Baia. -Every Brazilian knows how to play soccer. In fact, Brazil doesn't have doctors, engineers, teachers, nothing. ONLY soccer players. -Brazilians live in tree-houses and go to school on vines. I KID YOU NOT. I READ THIS.
As a final note, I'd like to add WE DO NOT HAVE A FUCKING WEST COAST, GOD DAMN IT!!
That is all. |
So the recent news item in the last issue of Flight International concerning a possible co-operation agreement between Brazil & France, concerning the development of the Embreaer KC-390 cargo/tanker aircraft, is a complete piece of fiction, then, I take it...? (At least, according to the Fan fiction writers who do not bother to do their research, it is...) |
|  | | Wildstyle Drive-by Camwhore


Join date: 2010-01-29 Location: The Otherworld Shopping Mall
 | Subject: Re: If You Must Desecrate My Country... Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:30 am | |
| | Grimley Fieendish wrote: | | Wildstyle wrote: | Ooh! Ooh! Some atrocities I've read in fanfics about the land I'm supposed to be from:
-Brazil's population is comprised only of black people. And they ALL act like slaves. -All women walk around naked, are black or, possibly, if the author has somehow heard the term before, mulatas and somehow manage to dance samba while they walk. -All we ever do is drink beer and dance samba. -We celebrate the Carnaval 24/7 (this isn't even true in Bahia) -Brazil's only states are Río de Janeiro, São Paulo and Bahía. -There is a Brazilian west coast. -Baia. -Every Brazilian knows how to play soccer. In fact, Brazil doesn't have doctors, engineers, teachers, nothing. ONLY soccer players. -Brazilians live in tree-houses and go to school on vines. I KID YOU NOT. I READ THIS.
As a final note, I'd like to add WE DO NOT HAVE A FUCKING WEST COAST, GOD DAMN IT!!
That is all. |
So the recent news item in the last issue of Flight International concerning a possible co-operation agreement between Brazil & France, concerning the development of the Embreaer KC-390 cargo/tanker aircraft, is a complete piece of fiction, then, I take it...? (At least, according to the Fan fiction writers who do not bother to do their research, it is...) |
Unless they want a soccer-playing plane, then yes. It is. I wish I could shoot someone in the face every time I read 'Brazilians' and 'soccer' in the same sentence. |
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