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xerrofoot Sporkbender


Join date: 2010-10-21 Age: 26 Location: Great Southern Land
 | Subject: Why, God, Why are you writing fanfic so soon? Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:31 am | |
| We're barely halfway into the first season of Terra Nova and ALREADY there's 35+ Terra Nova fics on fanfiction.net. Would it kill you people to let the canon develop a bit before you hit the keyboard? Fuuuuuck. I don't mind good fic in general, but the mystery and intrigue has only just started to get good* and fanbrats are jumping the gun and IT ANNOYS THE EVERLOVING SHIT OUT OF ME. Fanbrats: get your greasy paws off the keyboard and WAIT FOR SEASON TWO. PLEASE. * | Spoiler: | | | What are those rock carvings about? Who are the bartender's friends in 2149? Who is really behind the Sixers' desertion? Why did the Sixers desert? How does Mira know so much? What is Commander Taylor hiding about the real purpose of Terra Nova? Will Kara be brought through the rift? What's in the box Mira sent Leah to recover? |
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|  | | Lady Anne NO NOT THE BEEEEES


Join date: 2009-06-12 Age: 35 Location: The land of the fruits and nuts
 | Subject: Re: Why, God, Why are you writing fanfic so soon? Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:52 am | |
| That's not the worst I've seen. Some fanbrats have started writing fanfic before a show even aired. |
|  | | xerrofoot Sporkbender


Join date: 2010-10-21 Age: 26 Location: Great Southern Land
 | Subject: Re: Why, God, Why are you writing fanfic so soon? Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:14 am | |
| 0_0
How the hell were they able to DO that? |
|  | | EileenK98 Recovering Fanbrat


Join date: 2009-06-10 Age: 43 Location: very, very close to Chris
 | Subject: Re: Why, God, Why are you writing fanfic so soon? Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:29 am | |
| Based on online descriptions and stuff they read on message boards. See: Young Justice |
|  | | Cyberwulf NO NOT THE BEEEEES


Join date: 2009-06-03 Age: 30 Location: TRILOBITE!
 | Subject: Re: Why, God, Why are you writing fanfic so soon? Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:58 am | |
| xerro, are you fucking serious with that question? When should people start writing fanfic, when the show is over? |
|  | | Harley Quinn hyenaholic NO NOT THE BEEEEES


Join date: 2009-06-12 Age: 27
 | Subject: Re: Why, God, Why are you writing fanfic so soon? Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:08 pm | |
| If that was the point, Cyberwulf, we wouldn't have all the fanfiction springing up about Scourge from Archie's Sonic the Hedgehog.
Which, considering what most of them do to his character, wouldn't be such a bad thing. |
|  | | xerrofoot Sporkbender


Join date: 2010-10-21 Age: 26 Location: Great Southern Land
 | Subject: Re: Why, God, Why are you writing fanfic so soon? Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:57 pm | |
| | Cyberwulf wrote: | | xerro, are you fucking serious with that question? When should people start writing fanfic, when the show is over? |
You're goddamn right I'm serious. At least wait until the second season, that way you've got more canon to work with. Right now all the fanbrats are doing is jumping the gun. |
|  | | Pierre Gringoire Sporkbender

Join date: 2009-07-24 Location: Home
 | Subject: Re: Why, God, Why are you writing fanfic so soon? Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:58 pm | |
| | xerrofoot wrote: | | Cyberwulf wrote: | | xerro, are you fucking serious with that question? When should people start writing fanfic, when the show is over? |
You're goddamn right I'm serious. At least wait until the second season, that way you've got more canon to work with. Right now all the fanbrats are doing is jumping the gun. |
Anyone who writes for a tv fandom or any other serialized work runs the risk of contradicting canon. What's the point of waiting for more? |
|  | | Owlish Shitgobbling pissdrinker


Join date: 2010-03-06 Location: Not giving a hoot.
 | Subject: Re: Why, God, Why are you writing fanfic so soon? Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:50 am | |
| | xerrofoot wrote: | | Cyberwulf wrote: | | xerro, are you fucking serious with that question? When should people start writing fanfic, when the show is over? |
You're goddamn right I'm serious. At least wait until the second season, that way you've got more canon to work with. Right now all the fanbrats are doing is jumping the gun. |
...Assuming that there is a second season. And with Terra Nova that's looking doubtful. And why wait until the second season? Why not the third, or fourth? Is there some magical property which holds that the more canon exists for a show the better the fanfiction will be? Are you going to whine when people write fic after a show's been canceled, too? "OMG this show is so oooold why do people bother writing fic?!1 they should write what iiiii want!!1"
Sorry, but I find this entire topic ridiculous. Writing fic while the plot is developing and guessing where the creators are going to take it is half the fun. So what if it ends up being wrong? Do you get offended when people don't strictly adhere to established canon? Does reading AU/AR fic give you a brain aneurysm? Personally I wouldn't attempt to write anything without seeing at least several episodes, but if someone has more creativity and initiative than me, then go for it.
And for crying out loud if you don't want to read fic about a show that's still developing, then save yourself the butthurt and don't read it. |
|  | | Beregond5 Drive-by Camwhore

Join date: 2010-06-01
 | Subject: Re: Why, God, Why are you writing fanfic so soon? Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:26 am | |
| Though I do agree that sometimes a writer can be more comfortable writing about a show that is over and most of the answers have (probably) been answered, it's only plausible if 1) the show is short-lived, 2) the show is an oldie and/ or 3) you, as a writer, still have an interest in the show well after it's over. However, meeting one or all three standards, isn't easy. There aren't all that many Star Treks or Star Wars that keep fans interested even 30+ years later. There aren't so many short lived shows or whatever that are that good that can keep giving creativity juices to the writers. And, let's face it, there aren't all that many writers that their love for their show doesn't wane in time - not to the point that they hate it, just to the point that they just don't feel like writing anything about it. And when you do have ideas about a show and you keep postponing them in favour of timing, the ideas themselves lose their appeal and, as a writer who has this bug of sorts to deliver, this can be considered a waste. Yes, maybe a reader can be spared from fics that are horrible that way, but you lose the potential of reading some real gems, despite - or even because of - the fact they take the story into a different direction than the original creator intended. That's why the AU label is there for.
tl;dr - Writers are impatient. They want to write. |
|  | | Penguin NO NOT THE BEEEEES


Join date: 2009-07-19 Location: Wild Gray Yonder
 | Subject: Re: Why, God, Why are you writing fanfic so soon? Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:31 am | |
| Eh, I can see both sides of this. I mean, tearing off on a wild half-assed tangent can be fun. But at the same time, writing based off of nothing gets you stuff like that weird Nihlus fic. |
|  | | kleine_kat VileCorp's Muscly Woman-slave


Join date: 2009-06-11 Age: 32 Location: Lower Countries
 | Subject: Re: Why, God, Why are you writing fanfic so soon? Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:48 am | |
| A couple of episodes is a bit spare for fanfic, but it may work. Some decent fanfics have been known to appear after only a few episodes, for Firefly, for instance (written before people knew it was going to get canceled) and shows like Highlander, which only require knowing the basic traits of the main character, are ficcable after just a few episodes.
The problem I have when I want to write about budding shows is that I'm constantly pushed into AU land even if I want to stay true to canon.
Oh, his entire family died in a plane crash, so he can't have a brother. Bummer.
Oh, he comes from a filthy rich family of old blue blood and so can't have a Dad in a slum who speaks Cockney. Darn.
Oh, she was raped and can't have any more children. You wouldn't say...
Smallville was even worse. That show fucked over its own storyline, so even after 5 seasons inconsistencies that were nevertheless canon kept popping up. |
|  | | Sutremaine Armbiter of Good Fanfiction


Join date: 2009-11-14 Age: 27 Location: UK
 | Subject: Re: Why, God, Why are you writing fanfic so soon? Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:36 pm | |
| I have an idea for a fic that requires The Hero to stay depowered. That ain't happening in canon, so I'm drawing a line after the material I need and giving everything after it the status of, say, Doctor Who novels compared with the main show. I might use details about the universe if I like them and they don't get in the way, but I'm not obliged to stick to that particular canon.
In this case it's like pretending that everything after the cut-off doesn't exist. |
|  | | Knorg Behind Blue Eyes


Join date: 2009-06-06 Age: 29 Location: Rockall
 | Subject: Re: Why, God, Why are you writing fanfic so soon? Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:47 pm | |
| Somebody alert Ian! He's going to have to work hard to start the most ill-thought thread this week against this kind of competition!
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|  | | xerrofoot Sporkbender


Join date: 2010-10-21 Age: 26 Location: Great Southern Land
 | Subject: Re: Why, God, Why are you writing fanfic so soon? Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:01 pm | |
| | Owlish wrote: |
...Assuming that there is a second season. And with Terra Nova that's looking doubtful. And why wait until the second season? Why not the third, or fourth? Is there some magical property which holds that the more canon exists for a show the better the fanfiction will be? Are you going to whine when people write fic after a show's been canceled, too? "OMG this show is so oooold why do people bother writing fic?!1 they should write what iiiii want!!1" |
If Terra Nova is axed after one season, I'll stop complaining about the fanfic. If it survives, I'll stop complaining about the fanfic once Season 2 is underway. I'll even find some badfic to snark, I promise.
| Quote: | Sorry, but I find this entire topic ridiculous. Writing fic while the plot is developing and guessing where the creators are going to take it is half the fun. So what if it ends up being wrong? Do you get offended when people don't strictly adhere to established canon? Does reading AU/AR fic give you a brain aneurysm? Personally I wouldn't attempt to write anything without seeing at least several episodes, but if someone has more creativity and initiative than me, then go for it.
And for crying out loud if you don't want to read fic about a show that's still developing, then save yourself the butthurt and don't read it. |
I DIDN'T READ ANY OF IT TO BEGIN WITH, THEREFORE YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID. OK, I did read a couple, but it only served to prove my point - the fics are basically drabbles and one-shots crammed with enough guesswork to make Jim Shannon's head explode. I don't mind AU fics, but I DO mind when budding canon is mangled right out of the starting gate. |
|  | | Owlish Shitgobbling pissdrinker


Join date: 2010-03-06 Location: Not giving a hoot.
 | Subject: Re: Why, God, Why are you writing fanfic so soon? Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:03 am | |
| | xerrofoot wrote: | | If Terra Nova is axed after one season, I'll stop complaining about the fanfic. If it survives, I'll stop complaining about the fanfic once Season 2 is underway. I'll even find some badfic to snark, I promise. |
If the fic is that bad, why don't you snark some right now? And if it's not bad enough to snark, then what the hell are you whining about?
| Quote: | I DIDN'T READ ANY OF IT TO BEGIN WITH, THEREFORE YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID. OK, I did read a couple, but it only served to prove my point - the fics are basically drabbles and one-shots crammed with enough guesswork to make Jim Shannon's head explode. |
But you're complaining about the fact that fanfiction for this show simply exists. If you don't want to read or write fanfiction this early in the series that's understandable--so don't. But you cannot expect everyone else to feel the same.
| Quote: | | I don't mind AU fics, but I DO mind when budding canon is mangled right out of the starting gate. |
But how can you mangle canon, when your original complaint was that there wasn't enough canon to mangle? Your argument here is like swiss cheese, full of holes and kinda stinky. If you want to complain about mangled canon that's one thing, but attributing such mangling to a lack of canon is naive. People will write shitty fic about a series no matter how long it's been around, I assure you.
| Beregond5 wrote: | | And when you do have ideas about a show and you keep postponing them in favour of timing, the ideas themselves lose their appeal and, as a writer who has this bug of sorts to deliver, this can be considered a waste. |
So much this. I have, like, at least four pages of summaries and plot outlines that have been sitting on my hard drive for several years, and at this point I probably won't even bother anymore because I don't care about the ideas as much. And that makes me sad because at one point I did care and I feel like I should have made time for it, and then oh my god what am I doing with my life that I get this upset over unfinished fanfiction |
|  | | Retard Drive-by Camwhore


Join date: 2011-11-10 Location: Earth
 | Subject: Re: Why, God, Why are you writing fanfic so soon? Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:41 pm | |
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|  | | Retard Drive-by Camwhore


Join date: 2011-11-10 Location: Earth
 | Subject: Re: Why, God, Why are you writing fanfic so soon? Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:44 pm | |
| ... Wait, or he. |
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