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PostSubject: The ethics of beta-reading   Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:58 am

Since Beta-reading is a sign that you are dealing with a writer who sincerely wants to improve and not end up with something reserved for the doom-spork, it is always encouraged. However, there are some matters of etiquette to hand to the jury.


1) You agree to beta-read a young fanficcer's work. She's in the 16-20 years old range. You've been writing fics longer than she's been alive. She sends you her first WiP for your mutual fandom.

The lead character's a classic case of Sue; exotic name, same pet as the author, too competent for a sixteen year old (mentions of "martial arts training" and able to diagnose injuries to another character accurately because "She saw it on the Discovery Channel"), special clothing, canon characters backgrounded...

However, the central concept is good, she knows how to use spelling and grammar checks, the research was done for the injuries and symptoms. Ditch the Sue, rewrite it around the canonical cast, and we'd have something interesting.

What is the best way to explain to the girl that, yes, you have a really awful Sue here?


2) Same situation, different fandom. Maybe a more experienced writer this time. Get the fic, open it up, and...

It's a mess. The plotline makes no sense, the prose is beige, the characterization's thin, and the dialogue goes flat. Still, she knows how to use the spell-check and paid attention in grammar classes, the basic concept is an interesting idea, she knows her canon, etc. There are signs she's done appropriate research (even if she uses it as an exposition dump), too.

She might be better off tossing most of it and doing a rewrite from the ground up; starting the plot on page 5 instead of page 25, amping up some scenes between the canon cast, refocusing it to foreground the action-adventure aspects and making the inner conflict/romance arc the "B-plot"

How do you phrase it without coming across as "Your story is complete junk?"


3) Beta reading again, yet another fandom. College-age and college-level fanfic writer, and has a few decent stories up.

It starts out great. You can hear the actors on the dialogue, the comedic timing is spot-on, the prose description and narrator voice convey the POV character and his snarky outlook on life.

But midway through, it takes a swerve in tone that makes you suspect the writer ate bad mushrooms. It relies on "random humor" and fandom in-jokes while the genuine wit and charm of the story you thought you were reading seem to have gone MIA.

How do you politely phrase "WTF?! You lost me after the teddy bear walked in from nowhere and slapped him a fish on page 8. Did you drop acid?"
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PostSubject: Re: The ethics of beta-reading   Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:18 pm

1: It's a new writer. Have a little patience. Tell her about Sues. How they can ruin everything and they're so easy to write - even experienced writers make them. Tell her she's got some promise, but that maybe she should try a few fics WITHOUT OCs to get into the hang of writing FANfiction, before she takes on the big deal that is inserting an OC, especially as a main character.

2: Sometimes you have to be rough. Besides, everybody writes sucky/mediocre fics when they're fairly new. Tell her she needs more practce. But if you DON'T tell her, she'll go on with the same kind of crap forever.

Alternatively if her other stories are pretty good, tell her this one is not up to her usual standards. She'd still be better off scrapping it and, with the concept in mind try again from the start.

3: Tell her EXACTLY where it went wrong, and why. Tell her what was right about it before that point. Hurry! Before she gets any further!
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PostSubject: Re: The ethics of beta-reading   Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:02 pm

1] Start by asking her what she thinks about OCs, if she likes to read other people's in their fanfics, etc, and what characters she most likes in fiction. If she does, ask her about the ones that she likes, and what they have in common. Point out to her that the thing that separates good fiction from bad is tension and struggle. If everything comes easily to the main character, then it's just not that interesting. So maybe she could lower the 'power level' so that things feel like more of a struggle. I am not inherently anti-OC, though. I've read some excellent fanfic that focused on an OC.

2] You could try telling her that the timing is off, and she needs to tighten things up. Like, ask her about specific scenes and ask, 'Why is this important to the plot? Because I'm not seeing why and so it should probably be scrapped and saved for a different fic. And this other scene, well, it's 10pgs. You can do the same thing in two, and fewer pages usually means more readers."

3] She's in college. She can take it. Tell her everything right with the first part, then tell her that the second part reads like it was written by someone else entirely. Tell her you'd like to see a continuation of the first part, and the second... well. It's a sugarhigh fic.
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