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Join date: 2011-01-23
 | Subject: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:28 am | |
| I admit, I used to like Phantom of the Opera. I even sympathized with the Phantom. That was before I got a fucking clue and realized that he's the villain of the story and for a good reason. But the Phanbrats are still nuts over him and continuously bash Raoul (who I admit comes across better in the musical than in the book). Want to see Logic brutally tortured? Just watch your average Phan try to justify his multiple homicides and his torture chamber and his blackmailing. I swear I've heard one say that Piangi deserved to die because he was stupid. Basically in short, these girls would probably fangirl Charles Manson if he had Michael Crawford's voice. Here's a question for Musical Fans: Which line is more romantic
a) Let me be your shelter/ Let me be your light Or b) Your chains are still mine! You will sing for me!
Here's a hint: it's the first one and the Phantom never said it.
I also fled X-Men Evolution for two reasons. The biggest one was the fucking smooshed pairing names. I'm fairly certain this fandom is where that idiotic phenomenon was born; at least, I don't remember seeing it before I got involved in this one. I remember someone posting a list of joke pairing names and before long they were actually being used. I think I've seen Charro (aka Xavier/Ororo). Second reason, everyone was copying Neva Laurie and writing Evil!Xavier stories. Thing is she did the work and made it scarily plausible. Most fanbrats don't go to that trouble. They just turn him into a Magneto clone without explaining his motives. Word of advice, you can't go from A to Q without showing us how they got to Q. Shouting "Q!" and hoping no one notice you left out the steps in between, doesn't work.
Well, I've bored everyone with my rants. So now talk: Which fandoms have you fled? |
|  | | Spotts1701 Chief Cook and Bottle Washer


Join date: 2009-06-11 Age: 32 Location: New Vertiform City
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:39 am | |
| Mod Note: Moved to Fanfic Tropes.
I've pretty much given up on most Star Trek fandom since the Abrams!verse came along. It was already pretty bad, but now it's just gotten worse as the schisms over which one is better, why J.J. Abrams should be dipped in honey and staked out over an anthill, why anyone who doesn't like the new movie is just a hater, etc. grew and calcified. And that's before you start in on the fanfic.
I watch the fan films, but even then I steer clear of the discussion boards about them. Considering all of these folks are doing this for nothing (to avoid Paramount's lawyers crawling up their asses), getting picky about this scene or that effect is really rude. _________________ My LJ
Gibbs' Rule #16: If someone thinks they have the upper hand, break it.
"Oh, the equipment's guaranteed, but I have my doubts about the stuff inside." - Lt. Commander Montgomery Scott
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|  | | Rabid Badger And This is Why I Need Medication


Join date: 2009-06-11
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:08 am | |
| Torchwood, for reasons that should be obvious to any sentient being. Good luck with Torchwood;Ameican, Russell. Just remember, your reputation doesn't really mean squat in the US.
I also quite watching Dr. Who during 10's run (except for the season with Donna). David Tenant is a good actor, but he needs someone to reign in his tendency towards chewing up the scenary, and RTD was not the man to do it (there towards the end, he was swallowing it whole). I considered the relationship between him and Rose to be at least as unhealthy as the one between Edward and Bella, and was probably the only person who actually cheered when she finally got sucked into the alternate universe.
Only to be replaced by Martha, who was a supposedly this brilliant doctor who worked for UNIT, but who was required by the plot devices to spend all her time pining for the Doctor who, of course, couldn't possibly look at any other woman the way he had Rose (apparently, Time Lords don't fall in love, they imprint on the first woman they see after they generate).
I will admit 'The End of Time' was fantastic. It was nice seeing the Time Lords in all their corrupt, power-hungry glory again, the fact that THEY were the ones responsible for the Master having been batshit all that time came completely out of left field, and I do so love Wilf. But the ending rang totally false. "I don't want to go?" I doubt any of them wanted to go, but you didn't see them whining about it, did you?. And I was honestly glad to see Matt Smith emerge from the ashes, horrified that he might have possibly regenerated as a woman this time because his hair was long.
The less said about them foisting the meta-crisis Doctor off on Rose the better. I swear, some day I'm going to write an AU in which 10 1/2 and Rose finally have a child, and it will be a ginger-haired little girl with a smart mouth and very set opinions on what she does and doesn't like. After all, Ten did say a certain amount of DNA was exchanged (that's how Donna knew how to destroy the Dalek's), so I figure it went both ways. |
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Join date: 2009-06-03 Age: 23 Location: You can't piss on hospitality.
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:44 am | |
| | Spotts1701 wrote: | Mod Note: Moved to Fanfic Tropes.
I've pretty much given up on most Star Trek fandom since the Abrams!verse came along. It was already pretty bad, but now it's just gotten worse as the schisms over which one is better, why J.J. Abrams should be dipped in honey and staked out over an anthill, why anyone who doesn't like the new movie is just a hater, etc. And that's before you start in on the fanfic.
I watch the fan films, but even then I steer clear of the discussion boards about them. Considering all of these folks are doing this for nothing (to avoid Paramount's lawyers crawling up their asses), getting picky about this scene or that effect is really rude. |
This is what ruined ANY discussion about Star Trek for me, in real life and online, because I apparently was the only person who was being a stick in the mud and not really liking the new movie too much. I mean, I understand it's a subjective thing, but I don't like being raked over the coals for simply saying that I was disappointed in it. It's like, sure we have reasons for liking what we do but we all in the end just pick the one we like the most. I tried to like Abrams!verse, really I did. There were some really great things going on in the movie that I was a big fan of. Just some things didn't sit right with me and that's okay. Just like some issues others have with TOS. It's no big deal, fuck, it's all Star Trek in the end.
Also is it bad that I don't follow Glee because I think the wank on Tumblr I see from people arguing whether it's homophobic or not is annoying? |
|  | | TheHedonist Shitgobbling pissdrinker


Join date: 2009-10-27 Location: Не беда, да да да!
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:31 am | |
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I can't have been the only one who thought this.
| Nihilist wrote: | | Also is it bad that I don't follow Glee because I think the wank on Tumblr I see from people arguing whether it's homophobic or not is annoying? |
No, it just means you don't like forming opinions on things that don't matter.
That being said I left the Rule of Rose fandom for two reasons: first, it was tiny (I'm sure most of you haven't even heard of this game, it's a minor survival-horror for the PS2) and there were two 'groups' of fans that were basically involved in a message board war. Once the war ended, everyone stopped talking. There were so few of us the one thing that really united us was our distaste for the other side, and that's just not a good place to be in life or in a fandom.
Second, there's a prevalent (though tastefully-handled) theme of childhood molestation and sexuality throughout the entire game. This makes for a lot of creepy people in the fandom writing really creepy fanfic that uh...went a hell of a lot farther than anyone in the game ever did. I understand that Clara is of age but uh, that REALLY doesn't make it okay that you've paired her with Diana. Diana's fucking fourteen. And those are the two oldest characters.
tl;dr anything but tentative romance (or power-plays, honestly, given the subject matter of the game) between tweens is weird as FUCK to write fanfic about I don't CARE if they are magically older in your head (especially given the game's ending but let's not get into that.)
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|  | | Spotts1701 Chief Cook and Bottle Washer


Join date: 2009-06-11 Age: 32 Location: New Vertiform City
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:33 am | |
| | TheHedonist wrote: |

I can't have been the only one who thought this. |
No, but I wasn't really in the mood to go find the proper image for it. _________________ My LJ
Gibbs' Rule #16: If someone thinks they have the upper hand, break it.
"Oh, the equipment's guaranteed, but I have my doubts about the stuff inside." - Lt. Commander Montgomery Scott
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|  | | WD40 Knight of the Bleach


Join date: 2010-02-15 Age: 32 Location: land of broken dreams
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:38 am | |
| Anything Anime/Manga related.
I've still got my faves: Gundam, Martian Successor, Tenchi Muyo... I even splashed out on the re-make of Guyver, but I refuse to let myself get suckered in by any more pretty colours, pretentious gibberish passing itself off as insight, shit writing, sexism and recap episodes.
I still get flashbacks to my old Anime-influenced life... I had to buy the 'new' Evangellion film 1.11, and I'm pretty sure I'll eventually buy 2.22, but Bleach, Cowboy Bebop, whatever the hell else is going on, nope, I ain't goin' back there.
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|  | | TheHedonist Shitgobbling pissdrinker


Join date: 2009-10-27 Location: Не беда, да да да!
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:06 am | |
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Woah woah woah.
Cowboy Bebop is fantastic television, anime aside. |
|  | | Root Admin Administrator


Join date: 2009-06-03 Age: 23 Location: You can't piss on hospitality.
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:15 am | |
| | TheHedonist wrote: |
Woah woah woah.
Cowboy Bebop is fantastic television, anime aside. |
I really couldn't get into it. But then again it could have been me in the 11th grade trying not to draw anime style anymore and being hipster before hipster was hipster. Purging influence so to speak. I'd have to see if it's on Netflix Instant. |
|  | | Rabid Badger And This is Why I Need Medication


Join date: 2009-06-11
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:45 am | |
| The major reason my son watches Glee is because it's one of the few shows on TV with openly gay characters who are just there and it's no big deal. However, smart boy that he is, he stays far away from fanfiction and message boards. He's not one of these people for whom television watching is a shared experience (except maybe with his boyfriend). Though he does like the 11th Doctor, so we've got that in common.
And I'm with WD-40. I got tired of the endless semi/uke wars and people bitching about fansubs and dubs in anime. When the fanwank is so annoying it distracts you from the show, you know it's time to step away from the DVD player. |
|  | | WD40 Knight of the Bleach


Join date: 2010-02-15 Age: 32 Location: land of broken dreams
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:49 am | |
| | TheHedonist wrote: |
Woah woah woah.
Cowboy Bebop is fantastic television, anime aside. |
People told me the same thing about Naruto, Iyanusha Trigun, Helsing & several different flavours of Dragonball.
And, guess what: pretentious, badly written, terribly acted, sexist, arguably racist, bollocks.
Sorry, the only way I'm getting back into that scene would involve something resembling that scene from Clockwork Orange.
Call me closed-minded all you want, because when it comes to Aneme/manga I am. |
|  | | Lurv VileCorp's Muscly Woman-slave


Join date: 2009-06-11 Age: 22
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:08 pm | |
| | Nihilist wrote: | | TheHedonist wrote: |
Woah woah woah.
Cowboy Bebop is fantastic television, anime aside. |
I really couldn't get into it. But then again it could have been me in the 11th grade trying not to draw anime style anymore and being hipster before hipster was hipster. Purging influence so to speak. I'd have to see if it's on Netflix Instant. |
I couldn't get into it either, but that could be because I like neither noir or westerns. |
|  | | Drabbler Armbiter of Good Fanfiction


Join date: 2009-06-11 Age: 122
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:31 pm | |
| | Nihilist wrote: | | ...and being hipster before hipster was hipster. |
"I was a hipster before it was cool!"? |
|  | | Penguin NO NOT THE BEEEEES


Join date: 2009-07-19 Location: Wild Gray Yonder
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:14 pm | |
| | WD40 wrote: | | People told me the same thing about Naruto, Iyanusha Trigun, Helsing & several different flavours of Dragonball. |
Well, there's your problem like there!
| Quote: | | I've still got my faves: Gundam |
Wait what
If you've got a problem with "pretentious, badly written, terribly acted, sexist, blatantly racist bollocks," Gundam is the last thing you should be holding up as good.
OH BOOHOO WAR IS SO TERRIBLE
WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE TO KILL
WHAT IS IT ABOUT PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM KILL PEOPLE
HOW TERRIBLE IT IS FOR ME TO BE BURDENED WITH MY GIANT INVINCIBLE DEATH MACHINE
I'LL CRY WHEN I'M DONE KILLING
I'LL KILL THE PEACE OUT OF YOU MURDERING FOOLS BECAUSE YOU KILL PEOPLE
Oh by the way we slowed down "Jingle Bells" to make it extra sad because people still want to kill people after we killed a bunch of people for peace. Seriously. Slow Jingle Bells. So sad. NOT |
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Join date: 2009-06-03 Age: 23 Location: You can't piss on hospitality.
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:11 pm | |
| | Drabbler wrote: | | Nihilist wrote: | | ...and being hipster before hipster was hipster. |
"I was a hipster before it was cool!"? |
Except with anime if that makes and sense. |
|  | | Ozymandias Drive-by Camwhore


Join date: 2010-08-08
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:24 pm | |
| | TheHedonist wrote: | That being said I left the Rule of Rose fandom for two reasons: first, it was tiny (I'm sure most of you haven't even heard of this game, it's a minor survival-horror for the PS2) and there were two 'groups' of fans that were basically involved in a message board war. Once the war ended, everyone stopped talking. There were so few of us the one thing that really united us was our distaste for the other side, and that's just not a good place to be in life or in a fandom.
Second, there's a prevalent (though tastefully-handled) theme of childhood molestation and sexuality throughout the entire game. This makes for a lot of creepy people in the fandom writing really creepy fanfic that uh...went a hell of a lot farther than anyone in the game ever did. I understand that Clara is of age but uh, that REALLY doesn't make it okay that you've paired her with Diana. Diana's fucking fourteen. And those are the two oldest characters.
tl;dr anything but tentative romance (or power-plays, honestly, given the subject matter of the game) between tweens is weird as FUCK to write fanfic about I don't CARE if they are magically older in your head (especially given the game's ending but let's not get into that.) |
Wow, I loved RoR. One of the main reasons why I never sat well in this fandom you already mentioned - I liked that in the game, the relationships had a creepy ambiguous feel to them as did the characters (in the sense that maybe Diana is not actually an evil mastermind but maybe just an abused and lonely bully seen through the eyes of a scared little girl, or wtf goes on with Hoffman and Clara remains ambiguous just enough for the player to connect the dots and interpret to some extent) but the fandom just sexualized everything and everyone. The fact that 90% of what people wrote, this being the fandom of what I think a decent psychological thriller, was hot 12-on-14-year-old action left me but the worst by far was the fact that no one ever gave signs of thinking it was wrong.
And another thing that bugged me, but that's personal and I suppose it happens in both small and big fandoms alike, is that some of the crazier fans wouldn't stop shoving in everyone's face their "casual" similarities with their favourite characters. I mean, we all like to know we have little things in common with our idols but I'm talking crazy level here. It was ridiculous to see two people in a relationship just shoving in everyone's face how OMG WE PAIR UP MEG AND DIANA AND WE'RE EXACTLY LIKE THEM and we lock ourselves in the bathrooms at school and prick our fingers with roses and make our relationship abusive to imitate these 12 year old girls we write porn about aren't we cute.
So, yeah, this pretty much made me never touch the fandom with a ten feet pole again. |
|  | | InkWeaver Harriet Tubman


Join date: 2009-06-10 Age: 21 Location: Home of the peanuts.
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:40 pm | |
| | WD40 wrote: | | TheHedonist wrote: |
Woah woah woah.
Cowboy Bebop is fantastic television, anime aside. |
People told me the same thing about Naruto, Iyanusha Trigun, Helsing & several different flavours of Dragonball.
And, guess what: pretentious, badly written, terribly acted, sexist, arguably racist, bollocks. |
I mean, whatever floats your boat, dude, but I can argue with lots of support that Cowboy Bebop is really none of that. Trigun, Hellsing, Inuyasha, Naruto, and Dragonball? Yes. Yes, they are often several of those things at once. But Cowboy Bebop is most often marked as an exception to the rule because basically, pointy eyes and green fuzzy hair aside, it was very carefully written, very carefully animated, very carefully voice acted, and just plain done very well.
Now, if you gave it a try and just don't like it, like Nihilist, then that's cool too. But on the grounds that it's anime is really pretty lame of you, and on the grounds that it's "pretentious, badly written, terribly acted, sexist, arguably racist, bollocks," well, that's just plain false. |
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Join date: 2009-06-03 Age: 23 Location: You can't piss on hospitality.
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:10 pm | |
| | InkWeaver wrote: | | WD40 wrote: | | TheHedonist wrote: |
Woah woah woah.
Cowboy Bebop is fantastic television, anime aside. |
People told me the same thing about Naruto, Iyanusha Trigun, Helsing & several different flavours of Dragonball.
And, guess what: pretentious, badly written, terribly acted, sexist, arguably racist, bollocks. |
I mean, whatever floats your boat, dude, but I can argue with lots of support that Cowboy Bebop is really none of that. Trigun, Hellsing, Inuyasha, Naruto, and Dragonball? Yes. Yes, they are often several of those things at once. But Cowboy Bebop is most often marked as an exception to the rule because basically, pointy eyes and green fuzzy hair aside, it was very carefully written, very carefully animated, very carefully voice acted, and just plain done very well.
Now, if you gave it a try and just don't like it, like Nihilist, then that's cool too. But on the grounds that it's anime is really pretty lame of you, and on the grounds that it's "pretentious, badly written, terribly acted, sexist, arguably racist, bollocks," well, that's just plain false. |
Who knows, I might even watch some of them for old nostalgia sake. I just stopped watching anime because all I did in terms of art was draw anime characters and I was told that it wouldn't get me anywhere. So I stopped watching and reading except for the rare episode every now and then. I can't help it- at the time I was pretty obsessed with the style. So if I stopped watching, I'd stop thinking about it all the time. So I started learning formal technique....
... then the other day I drew a Shojo anime gurl and it was pretty good looking. Better than ever, in fact. |
|  | | TheHedonist Shitgobbling pissdrinker


Join date: 2009-10-27 Location: Не беда, да да да!
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:46 pm | |
| | Ozymandias wrote: | | So, yeah, this pretty much made me never touch the fandom with a ten feet pole again. |
If it makes you feel any better it doesn't really, uh, exist, anymore. We were tiny to begin with and people got sick of the drama/overall weirdness. But yeah, you're right, a lot of creepy people hanging around that fandom. One thing I miss about it, though, was that some GREAT crackfic came out of it. I remember I co-wrote one with ADULT!Jennifer getting drilled by Gregory who for some reason was wearing a bear suit.
I don't know man they're fuckin' weird.
| Ozymandias wrote: | | And another thing that bugged me, but that's personal and I suppose it happens in both small and big fandoms alike, is that some of the crazier fans wouldn't stop shoving in everyone's face their "casual" similarities with their favourite characters. I mean, we all like to know we have little things in common with our idols but I'm talking crazy level here. It was ridiculous to see two people in a relationship just shoving in everyone's face how OMG WE PAIR UP MEG AND DIANA AND WE'RE EXACTLY LIKE THEM and we lock ourselves in the bathrooms at school and prick our fingers with roses and make our relationship abusive to imitate these 12 year old girls we write porn about aren't we cute. |
HAHA HOLY SHIT I REMEMBER THEM. Wasn't the one girl's name Meg on the forum? And also maybe in real life?
This is also like, even weirder when you consider how much of the game Diana spent fucking with Meg's head. SHE EVISCERATED HER STUFFED GOAT SO ROMANTIC OMG
Also, lovin' all this Bebop defense |
|  | | anangrychocobo Shitgobbling pissdrinker

Join date: 2009-06-13
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:11 pm | |
| | WD40 wrote: | | Iyanusha Trigun |
Never heard of that show. What's it about?
Also ITT: wuggawuh turns into the deviantART complaints forum with a special presentation of "anime: the suck, or not?". |
|  | | Lembech Shitgobbling pissdrinker


Join date: 2009-06-10 Age: 22
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:45 pm | |
| Ever since that PK Calln' incident, I had to take a break from the Earthbound fandom for a bit. Jesus Christ, that got embarrassingly out of hand quick.
I don't think I can completely leave that fandom but man...
Blah blah blah, obligatory Invader Zim entry. I think badbadrubberpiggy was the straw that broke the camel's back. That site was just so pure saccharine creepiness, and not even the intentional kind either. Also, tight-knit bitch groups. |
|  | | Sheba Armbiter of Good Fanfiction


Join date: 2009-06-11 Age: 24
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:28 pm | |
| | anangrychocobo wrote: | | WD40 wrote: | | Iyanusha Trigun |
Never heard of that show. What's it about?
Also ITT: wuggawuh turns into the deviantART complaints forum with a special presentation of "anime: the suck, or not?". |
I've heard there's like, this demon dude who wanders around some space Western town trying to kill his older half-brother who's got this insane bounty out on his head. Oh, also, he has amnesia and these little fucked-up Westie dog ears. |
|  | | InkWeaver Harriet Tubman


Join date: 2009-06-10 Age: 21 Location: Home of the peanuts.
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:56 pm | |
| Badbadrubberpiggy? I am interested in this.
Shhh choco shhhh this is the most entertaining thread we've had in a while don't ruin it |
|  | | Knorg Behind Blue Eyes


Join date: 2009-06-06 Age: 29 Location: Rockall
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:56 pm | |
| | Drabbler wrote: | | Nihilist wrote: | | ...and being hipster before hipster was hipster. |
"I was a hipster before it was cool!"? |
I was a huge fan of Britney Spears when she was still underground, yo. |
|  | | Lembech Shitgobbling pissdrinker


Join date: 2009-06-10 Age: 22
 | Subject: Re: Fandoms You Fled Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:16 pm | |
| | InkWeaver wrote: | | Badbadrubberpiggy? I am interested in this. |
It appears to have fallen off the face of the Earth, but it was once this huge clusterfuck Invander Zim fansite. It started out fine but the bigger it got, the more annoyingly awkward it got. That, and the boatload of OC's, but what Invader Zim fansite would be complete without those? Every time they tried to manage something either the site would shit itself or an actual person would do the honors. I think one of the more strange things that have come from this site was the audio samplings "rap music".
Yeah, I have no idea. |
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