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PostSubject: Smushed Pairing Names   Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:56 am

At the risk of turning this into a 'You damn kids get off my lawn!' post, let me tell you about the strange way we treated couples when I first got into writing fanfic.

Now as anyone who knows their fanfic history is aware, slash originally got its name from the great-granddaddy of all slashfic ever-Star Trek. The main pairing was Kirk/Spock (hence the 'slash'), and while it was occasionally referred to as 'Spirk,' for the most part, the writers had no trouble writing out the two characters names, nor did the readers feel it necessary to have the names handily smushed together into one word so they didn't have to go to all the trouble of reading that extra name.

And thus it went for a long time. Badger wrote Jim/Blair, and Crocket/Castillo, and Fraser/RayK, and Bodie/Doyle, and Vash/Wolfwood, Wolfwood/Midvalley, Pretty Much Anyone/Legato, and at no point was it suggested that writing two names with a / between them was too hard. and what we really needed to do was smush the names into one word Something that would've been doubly hard to do in Due South, where both of Fraser's partners were named Ray. It was just easier to write Faser/RayV or Fraser/RayK, or both (if you swang both Rays.)

The first time I encountered a smushed pairing one was in Final Fantasy VII, where for some reason, certain authors insisted on smashing Rude/Reno into Rudo (I later found out this came from the Japanese themselves). I never did, because I thought it sounded extremely silly. Besides which, they only had four letters in their name. It can't be THAT taxing to type out Rude/Reno. Or Tseng/Rufus. And while the Cid and Vincent pairing was often referred to as Valenwind, the author still generally typed the pairing as Cid/Vincent.

And then, slowly but surely, the smushed names began to creep out of the woodwork. I first encountered them, oddly enough, in Marvel comic fandom, where Jogan, Rogan and (most puzzling) Kurrtty all of a sudden appeared out of nowhere. I then became aware they'd existed for some time on 'Buffy' (which I never watched).

Then, Harry Potter came into being, and you couldn't turn around without tripping over Dramione (which I still think sounds like a British version of Dramamine), Harmonions, or Snarry and Snack shippers.

From there, the downward spiral continues. Oddly enough, it seems to have been averted in Dr. Who fandom (except for a brief flirtation with calling Doctor/Rose 'Drose). I like to think Doctor Who fans realized that, in dealing with 30+ years of continuity, writing Doctor/Whichever Companion was much easier on their readers.

Torchwood wasn't so lucky. It gave us Janto, Gowen (Gwen/Owen), Twen (Tosh/Owen), and, of course, the ever snortworthy Gwack.

I could go on, but I can't remember all the smushed names for Twilight pairings, nor do I want to. Though my youngest son informs me that Glee has turned the Kurt/Blaine pairing into Klaine, which he thinks is pretty lame. Not nearly as interesting as Nuke (Luke/Noah) on 'As the World Turns.

So. What sort of smushed horrors have you seen inflicted on your fandom(s)? And I expect at least one person to list the Twilight portmanteaus. The youngest son's read the series, but he doesn't read online fanfic (even he has more brains than that).
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:12 am

Let's seeee...

FF8: Squiefer--Squall/Siefer

Squell--Squall/Zell

Squistis--Squall/Quistis

Squinoa--Squall/Rinoa

I'd be interested to see what an Irvine/Quistis pairing would turn out as. Irstis? Quivine?



Friday Night Lights: Tyla--Tim/Lyla

I've also seen it insisted that Jason Street and Lyla paired up should be called Leet.

Tim Riggins and Lyla Garrity is sometimes called Riggity.

OH! And Waverlash, how did I forget that one? It's Brian 'Smash' paired with a crazy chick called Waverly.

Tim/Julie is the gagworthy Tulie.
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:25 am

A lot of the fandoms I'm into nowadays don't utilize the smushed formula, though I know that Slerra was sometimes used for Slade/Terra for the Teen Titans cartoon, which sounds like some demented smoothie.

Not necessarily smushing names together, but when I was briefly involved in the Invader Zim fandom, they had their own system for various pairings which was __A__R (_____ and _____ Romance).

For example, if it was Zim/Dib, it would be ZADR. If it was Zim/Gaz, it would be ZAGR. Weirdest thing for pairings I've ever seen.
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:09 am

The Harry Potter fandom uses every pairing name convention ever invented (Accept for the __shipping that Pokemon and Yugioh use as far as I know) and a few I think it may have invented itself so no point going over the name smushes for that one. There are too many to list.


Name smushes are pretty prevalent in Anime fandom, especially the Japanese side of it, but it kinda makes more sense there due to the way Japanese names are structured. It didn't actually begin to become retarded until American anime fans began to try and morph it for western fandoms with English names that mostly don't work as well.

A good example of this would be the Sonic fandom where it's really prevalent, with the complication that it is both a Japanese and an English fandom depending on what continuity you're most into.

SonAmy, Sonuckles, Sonadow, Sonails, Knuxouge and who knows what else. I don't really remember any of the other Knuckles or Tails pairing smushes, but I'm sure they're out there somewhere.
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:49 am

Spirk... why not Kock.
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:06 am

Nihilist wrote:
Spirk... why not Kock.


Actually, that's an alternate name. I think Spirk likely caught on because it could be said in polite company.

I've also heard Spork used.

And Kitsune-chan, I remember reading an article in TV tropes that said the smushed character names are easier to do in Japanese because of the way the language is written-things sort of slot together like puzzle pieces. That's probably why the American version of so many smushed names end up sounding stupid.

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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:26 pm

The smushed names thing was also popularized by the tabloids using it for celebrity couples (remember Bennifer?)
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:26 pm

And then there are those who'll start listing their smushed-name pairings without first identifying the fandom. "I mostly write Borb, Herpy, and Kevin, though I do some Tatershipping and Gasshipping on the side."* Sorry, some of us are going to need just a bit of a hint there.




*Bob/Barb, Wild Ferns
Herb/Poppy, CopShop: Omaha
Kelly/Mervin, Lovers and Lovers
Ari/Ariel, Nooners, from that scene where they shared a baked potato. You know you saw the sexual tension there!
Donny/Shelly, Weehauken, because they both work at the gas station.
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:58 pm

Lady Anne wrote:
The smushed names thing was also popularized by the tabloids using it for celebrity couples (remember Bennifer?)

I like to believe that tabloids started smushing names together because when fanbrats grow up, that's where they go to work-- writing real people fics for money.
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:54 pm

Drabbler wrote:
And then there are those who'll start listing their smushed-name pairings without first identifying the fandom. "I mostly write Borb, Herpy, and Kevin, though I do some Tatershipping and Gasshipping on the side."* Sorry, some of us are going to need just a bit of a hint there.


OH MY GOD, THIS. This annoys me SO much. I end up reading long lists of smushed things that may or may not be from animes I've never seen, but it's hard to tell with no idea what the character names are.
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:30 am

Azzandra wrote:
Lady Anne wrote:
The smushed names thing was also popularized by the tabloids using it for celebrity couples (remember Bennifer?)

I like to believe that tabloids started smushing names together because when fanbrats grow up, that's where they go to work-- writing real people fics for money.


I'd forgotten Bennifer and Brangelina. The problem is I don't watch enough TV or see enough movies to immediately identify who the hell they're talking about. And since the couples are constantly breaking up and reforming, just about the time I think I've figured out who's who, they've all changed partners and we're back to square one.

I also discovered last night that the ever inventive Torchwood fandom has a smushed name for Gwen and Rhys (as if Gwen and Rhys weren't short enough names as is). They call them Gwys. Which, given the way the Welsh spell, might be a name in and of itself.

Also, I know the Harmonians were those who supported Harry/Hermione as the OTP, but what was the name for the Harry/Ginny shippers? Wasn't it something really stupid, like the Good Ship Pumpkin Pie, or am I thinking of another batshit insane pairing from Harry Potter?
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:15 am

Rabid Badger wrote:
Also, I know the Harmonians were those who supported Harry/Hermione as the OTP, but what was the name for the Harry/Ginny shippers? Wasn't it something really stupid, like the Good Ship Pumpkin Pie, or am I thinking of another batshit insane pairing from Harry Potter?

Could be misremembering, but I thought that was also the Harry/Hermione fans. Because Harry gave Hermione pumpkin pie, or...something. Some bullshit like that.

Apparently, passing the food along during a group meal = true love!
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:50 am

I'm pretty sure caffeine addict was right. The Harmonians had to come up with some very... inventive ways to 'prove' that there was any sort of basis for Harry/Hermione in the books.

I've only seen them a couple of times each, but there as Rufo or Runo (Rufus/Reno). Apparently Rufus/Rude was never popular enough to merit a name.
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:57 am

Oh yes, those mashed ships. Nowadays they are a reason for me to turn away from a story if the author proudly writes 'ZUTARA', 'KAANG' or 'KATOPH' in the summary. Well, if I'd hung on to that fandom, anyway.

If people are so eager to save key strokes when describing the characters they care most about, I sincerely doubt they have much to say at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:47 am

I think it might be more that they think it's cute or... something... rather than they actually think they're saving keystrokes or that they're too lazy to type both names. Or they think it's some kind of secret little code that means they're speshul and they belong to something, in the same way some people call themselves 'Whovians' (Doctor Who fandom) or... I can't actually think of any more. But I'm sure a lot of fandoms themselves have little nicknames, no? Is it maybe similar to that? "It makes me feel more speshul to ship Gwack than Gwen/Jack because if I put their names together as one name it's symbolic of their true, undying love and--"

God, I think I just made myself a bit sick.
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:12 am

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I think it might be more that they think it's cute or... something... rather than they actually think they're saving keystrokes or that they're too lazy to type both names. Or they think it's some kind of secret little code that means they're speshul and they belong to something, in the same way some people call themselves 'Whovians' (Doctor Who fandom) or... I can't actually think of any more. But I'm sure a lot of fandoms themselves have little nicknames, no? Is it maybe similar to that? "It makes me feel more speshul to ship Gwack than Gwen/Jack because if I put their names together as one name it's symbolic of their true, undying love and--"

God, I think I just made myself a bit sick.


I'm not sure, but I think the use of 'Whovians' to refer to Dr. Who fans probably dates back to at least the Tom Baker era. Maybe earlier. It's not a recent thing.

I think what annoys me the most about smushed names is, as you said, the fans believe it symbolizes their true undying love and all that crap. But also deprives the people involved of any individuality. For a large portion of the original Torchwood fandom, Janto summons up a certain dynamic-a relationship in which Jack is always the big strong man and Ianto is generally an emotional wreck. It's a complete subversion of the dynamic that actually existed between them on the show. Yes, Ianto had been through the wringer-you watch most of the people you work with get brutally slaughtered and your girlfriend partially converted into a Cyberman, it's going to mess with your head. The boy's got issues. Everyone at Torchwood has issues (except Jack, who has whole subscriptions).

The problem occurs when fanfiction diverges so far from reality, you're not even dealing with the same characters anymore. All too often, Janto bears no relation to Jack and Ianto.

Though at least they had an actual relationship on the show. Which is more than can be said for Snarry, Snape, and whatever the name is for Draco/Harry shippers. As Caffeine Addict said, in the Harry Potter universe, handing someone desert at a communal dinner table is apparently a sign of undying love. Hating someone because they're a rich racist bastard who delights in humiliating you and harassing your friends is obviously mad passion.

Odd bunch, those Harry Potter Shippers. I can't wait till 'The Deathly Hallows, Part 2' comes out, and the screams of the damned who didn't get the ship they wanted start again.
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:31 pm

The version I've always heard was that "Whovian" was something American fans came up with when the show got over here in the late '70s. Most of the dislike I saw was from UK fans who complained that they didn't need cutesy labels. "Why can't we just be called fans?"
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:54 pm

I think smush-names are pretty amusing, and I don't see the harm. The funnier the word (or non-word) they create, the better. Plus some of them, like Zutara, are so omnipresent that it's probably not a conscious "whee I love smush-names!" decision on the part of most people using it.

The use of Spirk rather than Spork and/or Kock is criminal, though.
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:22 pm

If you're going to write characters wildly out-of-character anyway, who cares about the stupid nickname people give the pairing?

Unless, it gets to the point where it's talking to a TVTropes fan and the end result is that you want to punch anyone who uses the word "lampshade," no matter how innocent.
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:09 pm

Drabbler wrote:
The version I've always heard was that "Whovian" was something American fans came up with when the show got over here in the late '70s. Most of the dislike I saw was from UK fans who complained that they didn't need cutesy labels. "Why can't we just be called fans?"


Or Whomosexuals.

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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:28 pm

Drabbler wrote:
The version I've always heard was that "Whovian" was something American fans came up with when the show got over here in the late '70s. Most of the dislike I saw was from UK fans who complained that they didn't need cutesy labels. "Why can't we just be called fans?"
Speaking as One Who Was There At The Time, the problem with "Whovian" is that it was not a spontaneous development like "Trekkie": it originated as a registered trademark of the Doctor Who Fan Club of America, as a name for its house organ, the Whovian Times. The club tried for years to argue that "Whovian" did not mean "Dr Who fan" -- it meant, specifically, "member of the DWFCA".

Sadly, the only obvious alternative to "Whovian" was "Whoie", which is pronounced identically to a particular Russian-language idiom for the male genital.

In the late 1980s I coined and tried to popularize "Whonik", but it never caught on.

ObOP: I've been given to understand that smushed pairing names started in the Buffy fandom, when it was generally realized that "Spuffy", repugnant as it is, was preferable to "B/S".
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:15 pm

Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned "Whovian", as I Did Not Do the Research. I just hear people throw it around and I sort of assumed it was a general little nickname they had given the fandom.

Cactus Wren wrote:
ObOP: I've been given to understand that smushed pairing names started in the Buffy fandom, when it was generally realized that "Spuffy", repugnant as it is, was preferable to "B/S".


Is it bad that it took me about three read-throughs of that sentence, going, "How could that possibly be preferable", before I finally realized what the problem with "B/S" was? Know how else they could solve that problem? Buffy/Spike. Problem solved!
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:15 am

I wasn't aware 'Whovian' referred to a specific fan grouping. But then, I've never been a great one for joining groups. I was fairly sure it had originated in the US, though.

And yeah, if you check TV Tropes, Buffy appears to have started the smushed pairings thing several years before it became common in fanfic. I have a vague memory of a friend who was heavily into writing Spander, and I had to ask her who the hell Spander was, because, as I said, I never watched the show (it's Spike/Xander).

Possibly because of David Tenant's overacting in the Fifth Series of Dr. Who (or maybe the writers finally noticed the subtext that had been literally dripping off the screen since the Troughton era) Doctor/Master shipping has become big in Who fandom. The problem is that there have been 11 different Doctors, and at least five (possibly six, if you count the one in the movie) Masters over the years.

So instead of smushing names, it's necessary to make sure your readers know which Master you're shipping your Doctor with. Ten/Master (Simm's) is probably the biggest right now, though Five/Master (Ainley) is a close second. Thus we have a case where, instead of shortening the pairing name, you've actually managed to lengthen it.

I just stick to shipping Two/Jamie and Five/Turlough. And occasionally Six/Frobisher, because what's the use of having a shapeshifting companion (even if he DOES look like a penguin most of the time) if you can't have some fun with it?
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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:04 pm

From the Pirates of the Caribbean fandom:

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PostSubject: Re: Smushed Pairing Names   Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:22 pm

Cactus Wren wrote:
Sadly, the only obvious alternative to "Whovian" was "Whoie", which is pronounced identically to a particular Russian-language idiom for the male genital.


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