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PostSubject: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:07 pm

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A young Russian woman, a devoted collector of horror films and spiders, is on trial for sedating and raping ten men.

The police were shocked that 32-year-old Valeria K., a quiet good-looking woman from the city of Tambov, was the mysterious rapist who abused ten local men after poisoning them with clonidine, Life.ru reports.

Valeria, who has already been nicknamed the Black Widow for her love of spiders, would get acquainted with men and invite them to her place.

She gave them drinks with clonidine, which almost immediately sent them to sleep for almost 24 hours.

After that, she undressed her victims and raped them, tightening a rope on their male organs to kep them erect.

Waking up in hospital with clonidine poisoning and penis trauma, all the victims could remember was a friendly brunette who gave them drinks.

Finally, local police identified the offender and arrested her.

At present, the police know about ten of Valeria’s victims, although one of them refused to file a complaint against her.

“It was great,” the unnamed man said.

“I like hot women. I only wish she hadn't use the clonidine on me.”


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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:12 pm

Wow. Male rapists get their mug shot up with them looking like hell. Female rapists get sexualized photoshopped images of them spinning silk from their butts.

The story is bad. But I think the really terrible part is that the news source and least one of the men she attacked don't seem to get she's a rapist.

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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:15 pm

KelinciHutan wrote:
Wow. Male rapists get their mug shot up with them looking like hell. Female rapists get sexualized photoshopped images of them spinning silk from their butts.


I don't think that's a picture of her - just a random 'human black widow' shoop.
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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:27 pm

DarthDarthington wrote:
KelinciHutan wrote:
Wow. Male rapists get their mug shot up with them looking like hell. Female rapists get sexualized photoshopped images of them spinning silk from their butts.

I don't think that's a picture of her - just a random 'human black widow' shoop.

Even so.

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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:35 pm

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“It was great,” the unnamed man said.


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tightening a rope on their male organs to keep them erect.


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great


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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:48 pm

Waiting for Cyberwulf.

Also. . . are you sure this isn't the Russian equivalent of the Weekly World News? Some of the stories they had posted look. . . off. Hang on, wiki'ing.
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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:26 pm

Mafiosa wrote:
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“It was great,” the unnamed man said.


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tightening a rope on their male organs to keep them erect.


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great


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Let's not judge people with kinks.

Also, it's understandable that a guy wouldn't get she's a rapist.  He was interested in her, she looked interested in him, so the drugging looked like she had a BDSM kink.
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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:28 pm

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“It was great,” the unnamed man said.


Erm, how does he know? He was asleep.
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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:11 pm

Psy-4 wrote:

Also, it's understandable that a guy wouldn't get she's a rapist. He was interested in her, she looked interested in him, so the drugging looked like she had a BDSM kink.


I don't see how that's understandable, aside from that perhaps he's suffering from denial. A lot of people are raped by people they were interested in--and it's not a misunderstanding. And anyone who would think that someone drugging people to have sex with them just has a BDSM kink is an idiot who knows nothing about BDSM.
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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:36 pm

I can't even see how drugging someone has anything to do with BDSM.
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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:45 pm

So he's Too Kinky to Torture, Tv Tropes-style?

Um...lucky her?
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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:57 am

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I don't see how that's understandable, aside from that perhaps he's suffering from denial.

Bahaha, no. The entire psychological impact of being raped was undermined by being unconscious through the entire thing. All that was left was the poisoning, rope burn on the dick and the question whether or not you have an STD or two.

The first can be cured, the second will wear off, and the third just needs some testing. Perhaps the dude took the same light hearted approach. Some russians really are that hardcore/jaded/carefree.
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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:34 am

I disagree in a way. Let me see if I can phrase this well. (Probably not.)

I think there is still the psychological trauma of being raped because even if you do not remember the event, there is still the knowledge that you have had your body used without your consent. Just because there is no memory of it doesn't mean it's not still traumatic.

EDIT: For clarification, that trauma is probably not on the same level, as there is no memory to relive over and over again. But there is still trauma, I would think. Just my two cents.
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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:41 am

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EDIT: For clarification, that trauma is probably not on the same level, as there is no memory to relive over and over again. But there is still trauma, I would think. Just my two cents.

Well, yeah. The other 9 guys are filing complaints, aren't they?

And about the same level... well, there is enough to turn into anger at what the woman did, but not enough for psychological damage.
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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:41 am

Psy-4 wrote:
InkWeaver wrote:
EDIT: For clarification, that trauma is probably not on the same level, as there is no memory to relive over and over again. But there is still trauma, I would think. Just my two cents.

Well, yeah. The other 9 guys are filing complaints, aren't they?

And about the same level... well, there is enough to turn into anger at what the woman did, but not enough for psychological damage.


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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:54 am

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Psy-4 wrote:
InkWeaver wrote:
EDIT: For clarification, that trauma is probably not on the same level, as there is no memory to relive over and over again. But there is still trauma, I would think. Just my two cents.

Well, yeah. The other 9 guys are filing complaints, aren't they?

And about the same level... well, there is enough to turn into anger at what the woman did, but not enough for psychological damage.


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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:00 am

Russia and its men are a lot more grittier, due to corrupt police, not exactly the most perfect living conditions, higher crime rates. They are jaded, cynical and if wronged, very likely to get angry. So, you're more likely to get a ticked off russian, rather than a traumatized one.

Not all countries cry for their psychologist and reach for their happy pills like U.S., you know :hmm:.
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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:13 am

Just because someone is tough and gritty doesn't mean they aren't hurt or traumatized by bad things happening to them. Everyone reacts to traumatic experiences in a different way.

Although, I will agree it's probably "less" traumatic than if they had full recollection of events. This article I'm reading talks about how trauma victims often replay the event in their mind, keeping the memory fresh. There's another argument in there which suggests even if they don't remember, it will be just as bad. To quote:

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Freud wrote that if someone does not recall trauma, it will probably be acted out again: “trauma is not reproduced in the form of a memory, but as an action, behavior.” Freud emphasized that individuals would repeat behaviors unaware of the trauma underneath, and this would be the way how trauma would be recalled.34 DelMonte19,35 also observed that certain traumatic memories may be acted out behaviorally by a compulsion to repeat the abusive experience or engage in other self-destructive behaviors, such as substance abuse and self-mutilation.


Just goes to show you that we still don't understand the human mind. Although I'm rather glad of this discussion--this is a really interesting article. Link.

EDIT: Also, after reading this, Psy might have a bit of a point. Those who are more resilient, psychologically speaking, from having dealt with traumatic events prior have a better chance of, well, dealing with it. Still depends heavily upon the individual; I don't really think we can generalize 'they'll get over it cuz they're Russian' though.


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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:17 am

Psy-4 wrote:
Not all countries cry for their psychologist and reach for their happy pills like U.S., you know :hmm:.


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PostSubject: Re: Woman Date-Rapes Ten Men, Dubbed "Black Widow"   Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:45 am

InkWeaver wrote:
Psy-4 wrote:
Not all countries cry for their psychologist and reach for their happy pills like U.S., you know :hmm:.


lololololol Excitedplz troooooooooll

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