Love-Shy?

Subject: Re: Love-Shy? Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:33 pm

Mafiosa wrote:

LOVESHY RETURNS IN

LOVE FREE
OR
SHY HARD

Ooooh, I vote we title this for the third Love Shy thread.

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Mafiosa wrote:

LOVESHY RETURNS IN

LOVE FREE
OR
SHY HARD

I laughed

SO HARD

Quick everybody, post more so we can make a third thread with that as the title!

(Also good lord. I got, like, three paragraphs into Strychnine's post before my eyes started to cross. It's the freaking teal deer motherlode.)

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Wait, this is the first I've heard of this "they can ask a girl out but can't kiss her/be romantic with her" thing. Mostly I've heard dudes moaning about stupid whores who won't date and/or fuck them.

And that arranged marriage/replace all women with cyborgs is a SUPER AWESOME IDEA and totally sweeps away the argument that the LS forums are an echo chamber of misogyny. Kudos, you.

LET'S GET PART THREE UP IN HERE

Subject: Re: Love-Shy? Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:00 pm

Miss Prince wrote:

And that arranged marriage/replace all women with cyborgs is a SUPER AWESOME IDEA

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Gotta admit, I'd want her to do me like she did Data.

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No thanks, I'd rather make out with my Monroe-bot!

Subject: Re: Love-Shy? Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:20 pm

Miss Prince wrote:

No thanks, I'd rather make out with my Monroe-bot!

I'd do for a closet full of 3s, 6s, and 8s... but then I don't think I can fit much in my closet, unless I can take them apart and put them away in a box.

You can borrow them if you want. Razz

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Subject: Re: Love-Shy? Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:12 pm

All I'm saying is:

When do I get to make a pass at and get rejected by Motoko Kusanagi?

Sporkbender Join date: 2009-08-25 Age: 31

Strychnine wrote:

I think I addressed this in my previous post. Don't equate true LS with social anxiety. All of the anxious/socially awkward/physically unappealing are for the person to work on, of course.

I don't equate it with regular garden-variety social anxiety, but it seems to be very similar to it, albeit more specifically triggered by the potential for romantic interaction. Besides which, the previous Love-Shy posters who came here did seem to explain their problems in these terms, and your own explanation initially sounded like more of the same.

Strychnine wrote:

But what if you can talk to women (I was in high school where girls to boys ratio was 7-1, I'm in college where it's 3-1), you're not that socially awkward or ugly but you are terrified of kissing a girl or saying you want to be more than friends? Solving the problems you stated above doesn't automatically solve this one. There is a subtle difference that is hard to understand for many people. That's all I'm saying.

I know. This is the problem I had. I have always been relatively comfortable talking to women--more than men, in some cases--but whenever it was someone I was romantically interested in, everything shut down. Once it got to the point where I wanted to ask a woman out, everything ground to a shrieking halt, and I could never broach the subject--at least not well.

Strychnine wrote:

I know you're gonna say "Dammit, if you solve this things there will be girls who will want you. Who will approach you even if you remain a pussy at approaching them." And that's true.

But I would like a little more control about it, I'd like to approach a girl I like instead of waiting for her to approach me during which time she can think I'm not interested. If she rejects me after I approached or expressed interest, fine. I'll approach the next one. But that's no longer a LS issue.

I don't know what to tell you here. You are the only one who can fix this problem. You can get all the help you like, but you are still going to have to be the one to do this, in the end. If you want to be able to approach a woman and express your interest, that's something you're just going to have to learn how to do. No, it won't be easy; no one is saying it will be. But there are no alternatives. You need to learn how to approach a woman, express your interest, and deal with the result, whether good or bad.

You're sitting there in front of your computer, railing at us, going, "I WANT TO BE ABLE TO APPROACH A WOMAN ON MY OWN TERMS, BUT CAN'T!" I don't know what you expect. Do you think someone can just give you this ability? That it can be gotten just be wanting it--needing it--badly enough? Do you believe that there is some secret that is being held back from you, that we are deliberately electing not to share it, because watching you whine about it amuses us? I don't understand what your complaint is. You cry on and on about how you want to be able to approach a woman. When someone tells you, "Then just approach her," you lash out with "I CAN'T!" You follow this up with a variety of reasons--I'm unattractive, I'm underconfident, the whole tired litany of excuses. We tell you to work on those problems. "IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE!" you cry.

But no. It is that simple. It helps to understand that "simple" does not mean "easy". Your problem is not as complicated as you would like to believe. It's big, but it isn't particularly sophisticated, as problems go. The solutions, likewise, are not easy. They are, however, still simple.

Subject: Re: Love-Shy? Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:24 pm

Wolf, why bother making detailed and reasonable arguments? Think about who you're talking to.

Just troll like the rest of us.

Sporkbender Join date: 2009-08-25 Age: 31

Oh, it's tempting.

Subject: Re: Love-Shy? Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:32 pm

Oh, here's another android on my to-do list Razz

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Subject: Re: Love-Shy? Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:45 pm

Nihilist wrote:

Oh, here's another android on my to-do list Razz

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Subject: Re: Love-Shy? Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:51 pm

Mikey Go WOOGA wrote:

Nihilist wrote:

Oh, here's another android on my to-do list Razz

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When I'm done. Trollface

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Wolf wrote:

You're sitting there in front of your computer, railing at us, going, "I WANT TO BE ABLE TO APPROACH A WOMAN ON MY OWN TERMS, BUT CAN'T!" I don't know what you expect. Do you think someone can just give you this ability? That it can be gotten just be wanting it--needing it--badly enough? Do you believe that there is some secret that is being held back from you, that we are deliberately electing not to share it, because watching you whine about it amuses us? I don't understand what your complaint is. You cry on and on about how you want to be able to approach a woman. When someone tells you, "Then just approach her," you lash out with "I CAN'T!" You follow this up with a variety of reasons--I'm unattractive, I'm underconfident, the whole tired litany of excuses. We tell you to work on those problems. "IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE!" you cry.

But no. It is that simple. It helps to understand that "simple" does not mean "easy". Your problem is not as complicated as you would like to believe. It's big, but it isn't particularly sophisticated, as problems go. The solutions, likewise, are not easy. They are, however, still simple.

Hell, I don't even think that a person needs to necessarily go from feeling like they're unattractive to feeling like they're attractive, or from feeling underconfident to feeling completely and totally confident and secure in themselves to ask another person out and start a relationship. You just need to do it.

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Malganis wrote:

Hell, I don't even think that a person needs to necessarily go from feeling like they're unattractive to feeling like they're attractive, or from feeling underconfident to feeling completely and totally confident and secure in themselves to ask another person out and start a relationship. You just need to do it.

True enough. I suppose my point was, generally, that these problems need to be overcome somehow. Whether that means addressing them directly or deciding they don't matter probably doesn't make much of a difference in the long run. The results are, ideally, the same.

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