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Heywood
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PostSubject: Helpful tips for archiving threads   Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:21 pm

I've seen several people trying to find homes for hundreds of 10MB screenshots of past threads. There's a better way of doing things that works relatively well across browsers: MHTML. If you have IE or Opera, choose File -> Save As, and choose "MHT" as the filetype. If you have Firefox, check out UnMHT, it does the exact same thing. These are far more compact, even more so if you do it from a "printable version".

Just an FYI.
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PostSubject: Re: Helpful tips for archiving threads   Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:02 pm

I tried that, and it worked, but: the firefox screengrab add-on saves threads as .png, converting to mht actually made my file bigger.

Any ideas?
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PostSubject: Re: Helpful tips for archiving threads   Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:15 pm

grmblfjx wrote:
I tried that, and it worked, but: the firefox screengrab add-on saves threads as .png, converting to mht actually made my file bigger.

Any ideas?
How are you doing it? Are you taking the output from another add-on and funneling it into MHT, or saving directly from the browser? For example, I added the "Save as MHT" button to my Firefox toolbar (right-click -> Customize, drag to toolbar). I've changed the default filename preferences, but that's about it (done using the icon in the bottom right corner, above the tray). When the Save box appears, try setting the Type to "Web Archive (.mht) (current state)", although you may wish to experiment with the others. Saving a a thread with a full page of posts yielded a 1.5MB MHT that could then be ZIPped to about 860KB if necessary.

That covers the entire page, including preserving the text so that it can be copied/pasted later for reference. PNG depends on the page content as to how large it will be, there's no easy way to predict. Are you taking multiple screenshots to get the entire thread, or does your add-on perform auto-scrolling to give you a PNG that's thousands of pixels tall?
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PostSubject: Re: Helpful tips for archiving threads   Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:34 pm

I'm not currently trying to save anything off the net. I have about 800 screencaps from GAFF, 95% of which are too big (MB-wise) to be uploaded anywhere viewable. Photobucket has a 1MB cap, this forum's gallery has a height maximum (I think), and so on. Screengrab has the option of just saving the entire page, so yeah, most of my images here are pretty damn tall.
I'm trying to either find a site that will let me upload them or a program that will decrease file size without rendering it completely illegible. So I tried to convert one of those old files to MHT and it went from 1.04MB to 1.4MB.
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PostSubject: Re: Helpful tips for archiving threads   Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:37 pm

Ah, that's the reason - it's meant for saving existing webpages, as opposed to stored images. It's basically considering that to be a webpage that says
Code:
<img src="(image).png">
and the encoding on that isn't as good.

Unfortunately, there isn't much that can be done about existing stored images, only for future needs. How many do you have, how large are they each (on average), and what's the total disk required for them? How often do you figure they'll be downloaded? I may be able to help.
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PostSubject: Re: Helpful tips for archiving threads   Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:50 pm

Hmmm I'd say most are 1 - 1.5MB, the largest being 2MB, and I have between 800 and 900 files. My GAFF folder has 980MB. The thing is, I didn't want to upload them as a package, I wanted people to be able to click through and look at them like in a photobucket album. In the end it might come down to people having to download it, though.
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PostSubject: Re: Helpful tips for archiving threads   Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:55 pm

Okay. I can't really spare a gig of disk at the moment, and that's likely going to amount to 5-10GB bandwidth. However, if there are particular images that need to be put up for some reason, I have the space/bandwidth for that.

(On a best-effort basis, of course)
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